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  • Kenneth
    Pond Scum
    • May 2007
    • 65638

    #27316
    Retraining I guess, primarily. The idea is to improve decision making.
    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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    • ChesterDave
      Paisley
      • Oct 2010
      • 32224

      #27317
      Originally posted by Kenneth
      Don’t quite get your point, it was Cavani trying to get around Ramsey, and it’s not Ramsey’s responsibility to move. But maybe it was a deliberate block, but the goal was disallowed for offside.

      Ramsay is beyond the second last defender so if the defender has to take action to avoid Ramsay and cannot run in a straight line because of where he is stood then he is clearly active in play. Ramsay's position forced the defender to navigate him. If he is active and beyond the last defender then he's offside.
      Football without Origi is nothing

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      • baitman
        Dad's Cabs
        • Sep 2011
        • 27745

        #27318
        Originally posted by ChesterDave
        Ramsay is beyond the second last defender so if the defender has to take action to avoid Ramsay and cannot run in a straight line because of where he is stood then he is clearly active in play. Ramsay's position forced the defender to navigate him. If he is active and beyond the last defender then he's offside.
        There was much head scratching in the after match analysis.
        Linekar read out the rule, something like; if the attacker is in an offside position and then obstructs a defender (cavani) then he is interfering with play, providing the defender is in a position to get to the ball.

        Cavani being allowed to pass would have had no impact on the outcome of any play as he was no where near the ball and on the far side of several other players.
        Last edited by baitman; 11-01-22, 01:45 PM.
        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        • Buzzo
          Donald Buzzworth
          • Jun 2010
          • 67435

          #27319
          Felt like they would just keep going until they found a decision to not give the goal. It was ridiculous. The fact that the actual crowd have no insight is ridiculous.
          Modifying post.

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          • ChesterDave
            Paisley
            • Oct 2010
            • 32224

            #27320
            Originally posted by baitman
            Cavani being allowed to pass would have had no impact on the outcome of any play as he was no where near the ball and on the far side of several other players.
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/59945823
            What? He's about half a yard short of the players that puts the ball back across goal and the ball is hanging in the air. He could have easily challenge the player or block the header back across goal. Several players between him and the goalscorer but not the runner
            Football without Origi is nothing

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            • frank the tank
              Paisley
              • Mar 2008
              • 12892

              #27321
              Also, did it not go in off Ing's hand anyway???

              I think Villa will ****in do them on Saturday in the league.

              And also, I'd love us to get United in the 5th round of the cup...... so happy days

              Ralphy at the wheel

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              • wiw
                Paisley
                • Aug 2006
                • 21200

                #27322
                Originally posted by Norbs
                Accountable in what way though? There isn't an unlimited pool to choose referees from so, other than sacking them off, what sort of punishment could be given?
                Originally posted by Kenneth
                Retraining I guess, primarily. The idea is to improve decision making.
                There's only one body of referees (PGMOL) so it's a bit of a closed shop when it comes to them ****ing up. Surely a bit of competition wouldn't hurt? Or increased transparency at the very least. They're not really accountable to anyone in any real sense
                Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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                • Buzzo
                  Donald Buzzworth
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 67435

                  #27323
                  Originally posted by frank the tank
                  Also, did it not go in off Ing's hand anyway???

                  I think Villa will ****in do them on Saturday in the league.

                  And also, I'd love us to get United in the 5th round of the cup...... so happy days

                  Ralphy at the wheel
                  In off his thigh.

                  I agree though, that was not a performance that will have reassured any Man u supporters. Very reminiscent of the CL games where they somehow found a way to scrape through playing badly.

                  Villa were ripping them open at will.
                  Modifying post.

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                  • Le Chef
                    Paisley
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 10751

                    #27324
                    In fairness he's had 4-5 weeks now, not. long enough time to get the message over. His worry should be he's lost two coaches and brought Ted Lasso in along with another unheard of one. Players are bleating and they still look unfit and lethargic.

                    Long may in continue.
                    I make no apologies, this is me

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                    • frank the tank
                      Paisley
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 12892

                      #27325
                      Originally posted by Deano
                      In fairness he's had 4-5 weeks now, not. long enough time to get the message over. His worry should be he's lost two coaches and brought Ted Lasso in along with another unheard of one. Players are bleating and they still look unfit and lethargic.

                      Long may in continue.


                      I think they are ****ed though. The players that they have are simply not good enough. The issue there though is that they are all on waaaaaay more money that any other club will pay. So when you see Martial has told him that he wants to leave but he doesn't want to take a pay cut from his 260k per week wage that nobody else is going to pay. Same with Lingard - he would love to be playing every week at West Ham but they ain't going to pay the transfer fee and the wage that he is on - so he needs to take the signing on fee himself.

                      Essentially, I think they are lumbered with this group of expensive flops until their contracts run out and then they leave for nothing.

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                      • baitman
                        Dad's Cabs
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 27745

                        #27326
                        Originally posted by frank the tank
                        :

                        ...Essentially, I think they are lumbered with this group of expensive flops until their contracts run out and then they leave for nothing.
                        Exactly the trap we shouldnt be blindly walking into with the likes of ox and henderson.
                        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        • frank the tank
                          Paisley
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 12892

                          #27327
                          Originally posted by baitman
                          Exactly the trap we shouldnt be blindly walking into with the likes of ox and henderson.
                          Oxlade will do what Lallana did when he was here and sit tight until his contract is up. Nobody will pay for him or pay him what lfc do. But he will get a Southampton or some other club that will take him on a free and give him a few mill to sign on

                          Hendo will be the new milner. Squad player and senior pro

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                          • Tribute
                            Paisley
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 10150

                            #27328
                            Originally posted by Deano
                            In fairness he's had 4-5 weeks now, not. long enough time to get the message over. His worry should be he's lost two coaches and brought Ted Lasso in along with another unheard of one. Players are bleating and they still look unfit and lethargic.

                            Long may in continue.
                            Good fortune smiling on Reckit Ralph at the weekend... last gasp winner smacks of Ole's first few months in charge.

                            Let's hope they don't keep being lucky and secure 4th place come the end of the season - mind you, it's either Arsenal or Spurs who can realistically challenge them for it, so I won't hold my breath...

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                            • Fredo
                              Not to be taken seriously
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 35173

                              #27329
                              Think they’ve improved for sure. Rangnick will stabilise them for sure and set them on the right track. What they do when he move upstairs is going to be interesting.
                              Are we winning?

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                              • Bloodraven
                                Fagan
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 1756

                                #27330
                                Mason Greenwood trending on Twitter for all the wrong reasons.

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