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    I'm yesterday's man

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      Actually Stephen, you're the day before the day before yesterday's man.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        Stephey
        Are we winning?

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          i'm off to bed ......

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            Night Bendy!

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              Originally posted by john316 View Post
              Was that a press release from Old Toilet or meant to be reporting?
              The Henry Winter article from the other day is almost as emabarssing as that one

              You can tell which journalists are in Uniteds pocket by the articles they are writing about their transfer window
              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                Manchester United baffled by criticisms of summer window policy
                Manchester United are privately mystified and annoyed at the widespread criticism of their transfer-window dealings.

                Target achieved: Maroune Fellaini, in training with Belgium team-mate Romelu Lukaku on Wednesday, is the man Manchester United wanted Photo: GETTY IMAGES
                By Henry Winter, Football Correspondent
                11:00PM BST 04 Sep 2013


                The champions brought in David Moyes’s No1 target, Marouane Fellaini, and managed to retain the heavyweight services of Wayne Rooney, who had flirted with a move to Chelsea.

                Supporters, though, wanted more.

                It is understood that Manchester United did not want to be rushed into the wrong signings, or what they considered overpriced signings like Ander *Herrera. They expect to be busier in the next two windows, not necessarily January, but certainly next summer.

                However frustrating in the short term for fans who understandably want the team strengthened, the club’s long-term commitment to Moyes means they take a more phlegmatic, longer view.

                The club now have time to work with Moyes, establishing his targets.


                He will be given “patience and money” to build his squad, according to a United source. The champions are actively scouting a left-back, a high-class centre-back and a central midfielder (a process that has been ongoing since 2007).

                “This was always going to be a difficult transfer window with a new manager,’’ the United source said, “but the club wouldn’t change anything we did in the transfer window.

                "We’ve kept Wayne, our biggest concern. We’ve got a lot of talent in with Fellaini and Guillermo Varela [the Uruguayan full-back]. [Wilfried] Zaha is in the squad and Adnan [Januzaj] has been promoted. No one’s gone out. We’ve got a big squad.”

                Big but not heavyweight, argue many supporters.

                With Moyes newly arrived, there was an understanding inside Car*rington and Old Trafford that he should be given time to examine his squad.

                He knew 15 or so of the United players well, having set up Everton to face them over recent seasons, but the club wanted Moyes to get to know the rest of the squad, assessing their potential before making moves in the transfer market.

                The champions have been perplexed at claims that they struggled to do deals such as the Herrera saga. The club have been tracking the Athlétic Bilbao midfielder for two years. After discussions at Old Trafford involving Moyes and chief executive Edward Woodward, the club decided on a budget for a 24-year-old who has yet to represent Spain.

                An inquiry was made to Bilbao, and a £26 million bid reportedly offered, but it became clear that United would get Herrera only through meeting the buy-out clause of £30.5 million.

                “The fee was too much,’’ the United source said. “He’s a very good player but not a top, top player.”

                United have huge resources to invest in players, both in transfer fees and salaries, but are determined to run the club as a business and not over-pay. They were particularly *frustrated to miss out on Sir Alex *Ferguson’s No 1 midfield target, Lucas Moura, in 2012 when the Brazilian went to Paris St-Germain for £40 million, beyond United’s valuation.

                Having decided that £30.5 million was above their valuation of Herrera, United ended all interest in the player on Sunday. Contact was made with Athletic Bilbao and the player’s *representatives to inform them of United’s decision.

                The following day, transfer deadline day, United were bemused when three individuals purporting to represent the club appeared at the Spanish league offices on Monday afternoon looking to get involved in the deal.

                “They were like fake sheikhs,” the United source said. “They were *nothing to do with us.’’

                The so-called “imposters” were actually members of a Bilbao law firm reportedly used by the Spanish club to facilitate paperwork.

                On Monday, United received calls from middlemen saying they could get them Herrera. “They were just trying to insert themselves in the deal,” the United source said. “They were trying to get an introduction fee. A lot of people tried to get involved.”

                United are still interested in Herrera and are understood to have spoken to his representatives again. “To spend too much at the end of the window is something the club are not going to do,” the source said.

                This summer, United turned down well-known attacking midfielders who have ended up at English clubs. The champions were offered Willian, the Anzhi Makhachkala player who ended up at Chelsea but apparently was keen to join United.

                The feeling within Carrington was that they had a No 10 in Rooney. Moyes, Woodward and others at the club had worked hard to ensure Rooney stayed, partly because they rate him highly and also because they did not want him *leaving to strengthen rivals like Chelsea.

                They repeated this mantra of “not for sale” and kept their No 10. The storm of criticism being directed at Moyes and Woodward would have been even stronger had Rooney left for Chelsea.

                Four weeks ago, United were also offered Mesut Özil for substantially less than the £42.4 million for which he eventually went to Arsenal on transfer deadline day.

                United liked Özil but declined the chance to pursue him again because of this belief in Rooney as their tempo-setting No 10. They also consider Shinji Kagawa an option as a creative force behind Robin van Persie.

                Moyes was very interested in working with Leighton Baines again and a bid was put into Everton for

                the left-back. It quickly became apparent to United that Everton could not countenance losing two players

                in Baines and Fellaini, who was the less embedded.

                There is also sensitivity within the club towards their current first-choice left-back, the highly respected vice-captain, Patrice Evra, who has started the season well.

                There is still a concern about whether Evra can play 50 games in the season, and a move for Baines in one of the next two transfer windows cannot be discounted.




                Christ their scouts much be ****ing ****e if they havent been able to find a midfielder better than Anderson, Carrick and Cleverley in the last 6 years
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  My goodness what a load of old claptrap.

                  Nice to see their links with the press to get their spin out hasn't died with Fergie stepping down

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                    So they're "determined to run the club as a business and not over-pay" ...that must be why they paid £27m for Fellaini when his release clause was £4m lower!
                    Never knowingly optimistic

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                      2007?

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                        I seriously hope this is the start of mediocrity for them. It would be a dream.

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                          Fergies book to be released in October.

                          Personally i cant wait - it would be hilarious if he turned on the plastic prawn-sandwich brigade!

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                            That Winter article is just a United press release.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              Originally posted by Lecter View Post

                              ....Four weeks ago, United were also offered Mesut Özil for substantially less than the £42.4 million for which he eventually went to Arsenal on transfer deadline day.

                              United liked Özil but declined the chance to pursue him again because of this belief in Rooney as their tempo-setting No 10...





                              Christ their scouts much be ****ing ****e if they havent been able to find a midfielder better than Anderson, Carrick and Cleverley in the last 6 years
                              What a load of bollocks! Embarrassing
                              Another MASSIVE game

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                                It really is a load of bollocks.

                                I don't know whether Winter should get all the blame or his sub should share some but the claims are unbelievable and the writing is unintelligible. A really bad article.
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                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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