Manchester United

[Rich]

It's 0 wins in 48 games.

You're revelling in this

Imagine if we beat them at Old Trafford though.

[Shaggy]

amazing

i think i've mentioned my mate before who works at everton, but he's actually involved properly at everton, it's not like he's the store supervisor or anything. Don't want to say to much though

he said moyes was an angry bully, he was the man at everton - everyone feared him, the atmosphere when he was around was always stone cold, but he got away with it there as they were a small club that he had done so well to get the best out of him - very militant, despite what some people think, terrible at bringing through youth, and was more about hard work than flair - granted a lot of us know that anyway, but thought i'd share it from an insider's view

he and along with others didn't think he'd cope if went to united with the same methods, because although ferguson ruled with an iron fist he had the trust/respect of the players - where as moyes doesn't - they seemed pretty convinced that the more established players won't appreciate being told what to do by moyes and it could go pear shaped


oh - my mate also mentioned that when martinez came he was worried about his job and was called in to martinez's office, he was great with him and told him not worry etc - he also has said the whole place has become lifted - different atmosphere, the players, coaching staff and other staff all have smiles on their faces and are encouraged to speak up and offer their thoughts.

Yep that is exactly what's coming across. He's their Hodgson

[Shaggy]

You're revelling in this

Imagine if we beat them at Old Trafford though.

I sure am

It would be huge. Amazed some want us to rest players. Let's ****ing go for it - it's a chance to make a huge statement and to absolutely ruin their manager and the fans'/club's confidence in him.

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[dww]

amazing

i think i've mentioned my mate before who works at everton, but he's actually involved properly at everton, it's not like he's the store supervisor or anything. Don't want to say to much though

he said moyes was an angry bully, he was the man at everton - everyone feared him, the atmosphere when he was around was always stone cold, but he got away with it there as they were a small club that he had done so well to get the best out of him - very militant, despite what some people think, terrible at bringing through youth, and was more about hard work than flair - granted a lot of us know that anyway, but thought i'd share it from an insider's view

he and along with others didn't think he'd cope if went to united with the same methods, because although ferguson ruled with an iron fist he had the trust/respect of the players - where as moyes doesn't - they seemed pretty convinced that the more established players won't appreciate being told what to do by moyes and it could go pear shaped


oh - my mate also mentioned that when martinez came he was worried about his job and was called in to martinez's office, he was great with him and told him not worry etc - he also has said the whole place has become lifted - different atmosphere, the players, coaching staff and other staff all have smiles on their faces and are encouraged to speak up and offer their thoughts.

I'm still not 100% sure we didn't back the wrong horse when we went for Rodgers over Martinez.

I think Moyes needs to learn to get better assistants. It was certainly one of the things that helped Fergie -always having people who added to his expertise rather than simply doing as they were told.

[rudedog]

It's 0 wins in 48 games.

Everton beat Man Utd 1-0 last August - the other day someone posted a video of Fellaini's contribution on here somewhere (he got the winner).

[Shaggy]

Everton beat Man Utd 1-0 last August - the other day someone posted a video of Fellaini's contribution on here somewhere (he got the winner).

Assumed he meant the famous stat referring to Moyes fixtures away from home against "the traditional big four" (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, us).

Just looked it up - it was 0 in 43 at Everton.

After the routine loss at our place, it now reads.

P44 W0 D16 L28

[Shaggy]

Obviously City don't come into that category - and he had a few wins against them - but still. Nice record

[rudedog]

Assumed he meant the famous stat referring to Moyes fixtures away from home against "the traditional big four" (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, us).

Just looked it up - it was 0 in 43 at Everton.

After the routine loss at our place, it now reads.

P44 W0 D16 L28

ah - didn't realise it was just away from home.

[Shaggy]

Everton at home under Moyes had good results against all the top teams. Away though he is clueless.

[Fosterbloke]

He will be absolutely crestfallen

Not sure crestfallen is the right word ->

"disappointed and sad because of having failed unexpectedly"

[Shaggy]

Haha

I didn't know it hinged on unexpected failure. Not sure that's the OED definition? I just thought it meant dejected.

[Fosterbloke]

Haha

I didn't know it hinged on unexpected failure. Not sure that's the OED definition? I just thought it meant dejected.

You're right about the OED definition. Thesaurus throws up some wonderful alternatives though!

[Shaggy]

Haha

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[Chazza]