Manchester United

[Darkon]

I doubt he would have started any way. Not sure the capital one cup is a priority for united, although you never know with the Moyes fella - he must be craving a trophy after all!

[Yozza]

I doubt he would have started any way. Not sure the capital one cup is a priority for united, although you never know with the Moyes fella - he must be craving a trophy after all!

Don't you mean another trophy?

[BigChief]

"I won something, ma! Look"

[Muddled]

I believe Moyesey will go all out for the League Cup; he'll royally **** up the Champions League and falter in the league ... it'll be his get-out-of-jail-remark to the media. The guy desperately needs a trophy, any trophy.

[Chazza]

I believe Moyesey will go all out for the League Cup; he'll royally **** up the Champions League and falter in the league ... it'll be his get-out-of-jail-remark to the media. The guy desperately needs a trophy, any trophy.

He will also be desperate to beat us.

[Darkon]

Don't you mean another trophy?

I believe he said that was fergies trophy afterwards

[wiw]

Interesting (and fantastic ) that United are having a slow start and struggling with injuries due to Moyes' training methods The players do not look happy at all

[Mattimetal]

I just found this pic from the match yday... I wonder what the Arabian man is taunting the Man U coaching team with? Look at the expression on Giggs' face, I wonder if that was before he had a go at Oliver in the tunnel ROTFLMAO!

[baitman]

in that pic moyes's hair seems to have become less ginger and slightly more blonde. has he has a rinse

[Shaggy]

[Tee]

He looks absolutely shattered.

[Shaggy]

I'm so soft I normally wind up having sympathy for anyone enduring a truly terrible time, even if it's someone I've disliked previously. But I will never, ever have any sympathy for him at United. I want to see him crying on the touchline

Good things, really good things tend not to happen to us anymore - but just imagine if we beat them tomorrow. He will be absolutely crestfallen

[PTP]

just go back a few pages before the international break, just after we'd beaten them one nil

i pointed out that between now and the end of the month they had

prem game they should win
euro game
city
us in carling cup
prem game they should win

5 games in about 18 days or something, i felt it would really test moyes's ability to rotate his squad and be the first time he could face real pressure/back lash

a lose to us tomorrow would be really bad for him - sadly i don't think it'll happen - if we had a fully fit squad i'd be confident, but i think we have a few of our own issues to overcome.

However though - looking at the league start

whilst it is quite a tough start - first 5 games, chelsea/city and us - it's been pretty dire and would never have happened under ferguson.

imagine if in our first 5 games we'd

drew to chelsea
lost to united
got battered by everton

because arguably that's whats happened - jeez, we'd be suicidal, losing to your two 'biggest' rivals in you opening 5 games.

moyes is completley inept when it comes to playing against big teams in big games, he's bottled every single big game i can think off

he's great at motivating lesser players to fight for their lives and over achieve, but that will only get you so far.

What's his record now against the 'big' clubs in the league - is it still no wins from about 20+ games?

[Shaggy]

It's 0 wins in 48 games.

[PTP]

amazing

i think i've mentioned my mate before who works at everton, but he's actually involved properly at everton, it's not like he's the store supervisor or anything. Don't want to say to much though

he said moyes was an angry bully, he was the man at everton - everyone feared him, the atmosphere when he was around was always stone cold, but he got away with it there as they were a small club that he had done so well to get the best out of him - very militant, despite what some people think, terrible at bringing through youth, and was more about hard work than flair - granted a lot of us know that anyway, but thought i'd share it from an insider's view

he and along with others didn't think he'd cope if went to united with the same methods, because although ferguson ruled with an iron fist he had the trust/respect of the players - where as moyes doesn't - they seemed pretty convinced that the more established players won't appreciate being told what to do by moyes and it could go pear shaped


oh - my mate also mentioned that when martinez came he was worried about his job and was called in to martinez's office, he was great with him and told him not worry etc - he also has said the whole place has become lifted - different atmosphere, the players, coaching staff and other staff all have smiles on their faces and are encouraged to speak up and offer their thoughts.