Manchester United

[G]

Yep. Play for the draw, anything else is a bonus.

[fidget]

I think this year even playing for a draw will lead to a 3 goal margin

[meffin]

Nah, that's what cost them the title last year- playing for the draw when everybody else was slaughtering United.

Think he'll go there to do them over

[~LFCHistory~]

Nah, that's what cost them the title last year- playing for the draw when everybody else was slaughtering United.

Think he'll go there to do them over

Chelsea are not the team they were last season, Costa and Fabregas have taken them to another level they're so much more dangerous now.

[BigChief]

I think this year even playing for a draw will lead to a 3 goal margin

Chelsea are not the team they were last season, Costa and Fabregas have taken them to another level they're so much more dangerous now.

Mourinho's learnt his lesson. Finishing third was a financial faux pas but the insult of finishing behind us will prevent him dropping 'silly' points.

He'll be patient, but he'll go for the kill.

Rafael McNair Rojo Blackett
---'Per Mertersacker' Blind

against Fabregas, Schurle, Hazard and Costa. Boi, this gunna be fun. Let's see Utd try to 'outscore' Chelsea.

[Fredo]

Thing that people forget is that they'll only get better as the season progresses. Less games and more time to train and induce Van Gaal's ideas and potentially they'll be spending big on a defender in January. Laugh at them at your peril.

[McDermotX]

Points on the board etc etc

We'll make up the difference with handy games just like the West Ham and Aston Villa ones.

[Fredo]

I'm not saying they'll finish above us, just that we need to concentrate on ourselves before having a laugh at them. We're a better team, but haven't showed it this season yet.

[G]

Points on the board etc etc

We'll make up the difference with handy games just like the West Ham and Aston Villa ones.

Right now, you couldn't possibly bet on us doing much better than they did in the same fixtures they've had. Hopefully our form picks up soon, we have a decent run of fixtures coming up and they have some tough ones. Time to get some points distance between us if we really are better than them.

[Chris]

Points on the board etc etc

We'll make up the difference with handy games just like the West Ham and Aston Villa ones.

Cheer up misery, no wonder you and Perkins get along so well!

[ChesterDave]

To add to their defensive woes McNair is now also injured - according to Manchester United.

I mean he played the full 90 minutes on Sunday... but is too injured to be called up for the Internationals.

[rodo]

roy keane giving it to ferguson in his book

[Liverpel]

Roy Keane has had a go at 'The Class of 92' and claimed the role that Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Nicky Butt and the Neville brothers, Gary and Phil has been exaggerated.


The Corkman accused the sextet of self-promotion and feels that the role they played in the glory days at Manchester United have been over-played.

“The Class of '92 – all good players, but their role at the club has become exaggerated," he writes in his autobiography 'The Second Half'..

"The 'Class of '92' seems to have grown its own legs; it has become a brand. It's as if they were a team away from the team, and they're not shy of plugging into it.

"But we all had the same aims – we all had the hunger. Scholesy was a top, top player. But I still don't fall for that boy-next-door image, or that he's dead humble. He has more of an edge to him. Everyone thinks he lives in a council flat.”


- See more at: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc....j94Qzi5Z.dpuf

[Liverpel]

Roy Keane says he wished he had not apologised to Alex Ferguson shortly after leaving Manchester United, as he revealed the explosive nature of the pair's break-up that led to his departure.

Roy Keane has detailed his exit from Manchester United

Keane, in his new autobiography The Second Half, provides the chronology of the falling out with both Ferguson and his assistant Carlos Queiroz, which divided United supporters over their allegiance to the club captain and manager. After they went their separate ways Keane approached the Scot to try to settled their differences.

“Now I kind of wish I hadn’t," Keane writes "Afterwards I was thinking, ‘I’m not sure why I f****** apologised.’ I just wanted to do the right thing.

"I was apologising for what had happened – that it had happened. But I wasn’t apologising for my behaviour or stance. There’s a difference – I had nothing to apologise for.”

It started in a pre-season training camp in the Algarve, where he had an argument with the increasingly influential Queiroz about loyalty.

“He was just on my right shoulder," said Keane. "How I didn’t f****** hit him – I was thinking, ‘The villa in Portugal, not treating me well in training' – and he just used the word 'loyalty' to me.

“I said, ‘Don’t you f****** talk to me about loyalty, Carlos. You left this club after 12 months a few years ago for the Real Madrid job. Don’t you dare question my loyalty. I had opportunities to go to Juventus and Bayern Munich.”

Ferguson tried to intervene. “That’s enough. I’ve had enough of all this,” he said.

“You as well gaffer," Keane retorted. "We need f***ing more from you. We need a bit more, gaffer. We’re slipping behind other teams.”



In January Keane gave an infamous interview with MUTV, which was never aired, in which he severely criticised several team-mates for their performances in the 4-1 defeat at Middlesbrough, a game he had missed because of a foot injury.

He says he was fined £5,000 and then dropped from a reserve team fixture, as Ferguson and the chief executive, David Gill, prepared a written statement to confirm his departure, in which they got details such as the length of his service at the club wrong.

“I said to Ferguson, ‘Can I play for somebody else?’" Keane writes. "And he said, ‘Yeah you can, cos we’re tearing up your contract’. So I thought, All right – I’ll get fixed up.

"I knew there’d be clubs in for me when the news got out. I said, ‘Yeah, I think we have come to the end.’ I just thought, ‘F****** p****’ – and I stood up and went ‘Yeah. I’m off.”

Keane also recalls how he asked Carlos Queiroz if made love to his wife in the same position every night when the Portuguese dismissed his suggestion that they should mix up training a bit.

"I said, you change the position, don't you? Sometimes you have to mix up training a little bit. That's all I'm saying. That's coming from all the players. It's not a personal thing'.

"I haven't a clue why I said that - and I still don't."

In another explosive extract, Roy Keane and Danish keeper Peter Schmeichel had a notoriously tetchy relationship during their days at old Trafford and it all came to a head on a trip to Hong Kong.

So loud was their fisticuffs that Bobby Charlton was woken up by the noise.

Keane writes: “I had a bust-up with Peter when we were on a pre-season tour of Asia, in 1998, just after I came back from my cruciate injury. I think we were in Hong Kong. There was drink involved.”

“There’d been a little bit of tension between us over the years, for football reasons. Peter would come out shouting at players, and I felt sometimes he was playing up to the crowd: ‘Look at me!’ “He said: ‘I’ve had enough of you, It’s time we sorted this out.’ So I said ‘Okay’ and we had a fight. It felt like 10 minutes.”

“I woke up the next morning. I kind of vaguely remembered the fight. My hand was really sore and one of my fingers was bent backwards. The manager had a go at us as we were getting on the bus, and people were going on about a fight in the hotel the night before. It started coming back to me – the fight between me and Peter. Anyway, Peter had grabbed me, I’d head-butted him – we’d been fighting for ages.”

“At the press conference, Peter took his sunglasses off. He had a black eye. The questions came at him ‘Peter, what happened to your eye?’ “He said ‘I just got an elbow last night, in training’. And that was the end of it."



- Keane writes about how Alex Ferguson dealt with the incident afterwards.

“The first day back at the training ground, the manager pulled myself and Peter into his office. “He knew exactly where we’d fought – I think he mentioned the 27th floor.

He told us that we were a disgrace to the club, and that we’d woken Bobby Charlton up, that Bobby had come out of his room and seen us. Peter took responsibility for the fight, which was good. I admired him for it. But Sir Bobby could have tried to break it up.”

- See more at: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc....kDGhKrLp.dpuf

[ChesterDave]

So the revelations we have so far is the Keane is a ****, Scholes is a ****, Fergie is a ****, and Queiroz is crap in bed.

3 things we knew and 1 only Mrs Queiroz cares about.