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  • Vermilion
    Shooterista
    • Dec 2007
    • 32026

    #2176
    Originally posted by PTP
    from bbc gossip (telegraph)

    Manchester United boss David Moyes has been labelled a "dinosaur" after striker Robin van Persie, 29, was injured in only his second pre-season appearance.





    Robin van Persie's pre-season injury niggle is down to 'dinosaur coaching' methods, says Dutch fitness expert


    David Moyes’s pre-season handling of Robin van Persie has been called into question by a Dutch fitness specialist who has worked with several leading clubs and was assistant to the late Wales manager Gary Speed.

    Van Persie was withdrawn at half-time during United’s friendly in Japan on Tuesday because he had experienced tightness in a thigh.

    Moyes said the substitution was pre*cautionary and that he expected the striker to be fine, but the new Manchester United manager was still subjected to stinging criticism from Raymond Verheijen, who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea and Manchester City among others and has a reputation for being outspoken.

    Writing on his Twitter account, Verheijin noted that Moyes had previously said United had ‘overtrained’ Van Persie at the start of pre-season.

    He wrote: “In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’. [In Japan] he picked up muscle injury. It really makes you wonder how these prehistoric training methods can still take place at the highest level.

    "The only way to solve this problem in Jurassic Park is to improve education of these dinosaur coaches, fitness clowns & scientific cowboys.

    "All over the world in pre-season you see the pattern ‘overtraining-fatigue-injuries’. Always avoid accumulation of fatigue in pre-season.

    "But as long as most dinosaurs are still in denial & ignore how things develop in other countries, nothing will ever change in Jurassic Park. Obviously, players like RVP should learn to protect themselves better against ‘overtraining’ & ‘punishing training’.”

    Moyes admits he will be forced to rely on Ryan Giggs to guide him through the early stages of United’s Champions League campaign after admitting he has much to learn about the competition.

    Last edited by Vermilion; 25-07-13, 10:48 AM.

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    • Fivex
      The Wisp
      • Nov 2006
      • 23867

      #2177
      Verm - Muddled's version is formatted so much better than yours.
      Hello mert.

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      • Vermilion
        Shooterista
        • Dec 2007
        • 32026

        #2178
        Originally posted by Fivex
        Verm - Muddled's version is formatted so much better than yours.
        Bollocks it is, he included all the crap about UTD at the end, i left that out, and stayed totally on topic.


        Just trying to take some heat off Bender.

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        • spud_gun
          Paisley
          • Jul 2006
          • 26519

          #2179
          Originally posted by Vermilion



          Robin van Persie's pre-season injury niggle is down to 'dinosaur coaching' methods, says Dutch fitness expert

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          • Shaggy
            Unidentified Rascal
            • Jul 2006
            • 135533

            #2180
            LOL

            ESPN FC ‏@ESPNFC
            Thiago has told RAC1: "The truth is that in no moment did United come to us and talk to us. It came from the press, it was always a lie."
            United PR again.
            Thanks very much for being

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            • Kenneth
              Pond Scum
              • May 2007
              • 65638

              #2181
              Originally posted by Reece
              Haha, this could be a fun adventure.
              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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              • Alex
                Administrator
                • Jul 2006
                • 37058

                #2182
                Originally posted by Shaggy
                LOL



                United PR again.
                ****ing hell, its every year. I remember Sneider basically having the shirt on his back according to the press a few years ago. They are good at appeasing their fans.



                Shame it didnt matter that they never signed him though.....
                *Except Michael, who died.

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                • danperkins
                  Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                  • May 2010
                  • 50411

                  #2183
                  Originally posted by saj


                  He was outstanding for Arsenal. Those figures above (for his stint at Arsenal) are not accurate.
                  he's a brilliant player.

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                  • Cormack74
                    Paisley
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10533

                    #2184
                    Fabregas is pretty decent IMO but whether he's rated on here or not both he and Barca seem to have made it abundantly clear he's not leaving so I don't really understand why utd keep persisting or pretend to be persisting with this.

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                    • Chazza
                      Des Lynam
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 31141

                      #2185
                      barcastuff @barcastuff
                      Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas (26) has told friends in England that he wants to join English club Manchester United. [daily mail]

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                      • ChesterDave
                        Paisley
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 32224

                        #2186
                        lol. No he hasn't
                        Football without Origi is nothing

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                        • baitman
                          Dad's Cabs
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 27745

                          #2187
                          Wayne Rooney still undecided about joining Chelsea, apparently Colleen is yet to agree personal terms with John Terry.
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          • peekay
                            Dr.
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 4000

                            #2188
                            Originally posted by Muddled

                            “It’s not all about the playing side of it – I’ve been in the Champions League [qualifiers], watched loads of games and managed in the Europa League – everybody has to start somewhere.”
                            Watched loads of games

                            That means 99% of est1892 posters satisfy one of the criteria to be the manager of Mancs

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                            • Norbs
                              Big Girl's Blouse
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 42643

                              #2189
                              Originally posted by baitman
                              Wayne Rooney still undecided about joining Chelsea, apparently Colleen is yet to agree personal terms with John Terry.
                              Lol

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                              • Shaggy
                                Unidentified Rascal
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 135533

                                #2190
                                Busby MUFC ‏@BusbyMUFC

                                Mail describe Cesc transfer as a "FIERCE BATTLE between United & Barca"

                                MUFC: 24m?
                                Barca: No
                                MUFC: 30m?
                                Barca: No
                                MUFC: Please?
                                Barca: No
                                Thanks very much for being

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