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    Manchester United to split bid for Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini
    • Everton say joint £28m bid 'derisory and insulting'
    • James McCarthy lined up as possible replacement

    Manchester United are expected to return with separate offers for Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines, having incensed Everton with a joint £28m bid for David Moyes's former players.

    Everton described as "derisory and insulting" an offer that valued Fellaini at £16m, a decrease on what Moyes paid for the midfielder five years ago, and Baines at £12m, the sum rejected earlier in the summer. The offer was made late last week by United's executive vice-president Ed Woodward but sanctioned by Moyes, leaving Everton's chairman, Bill Kenwright, furious at the valuation and its potential disruption to Roberto Martínez's debut season at Goodison Park.

    United's joint bid, as with their initial move for Baines in June, was rejected out of hand by Everton but is unlikely to be their last approach having failed to make any senior signings so far under Moyes. Everton are adamant the England left-back is not for sale and want to keep Fellaini, although an improved offer for the Belgium midfielder may test that resolve. United's prospects would therefore be improved by lodging separate bids for Everton's prize assets.

    Everton's new director of communications, Alan Myers, said: "Everton received bids from Manchester United for two players. Those bids were immediately rejected out of hand as derisory and insulting. The club did not make public these details as it was vital Roberto Martínez's preparations for the opening game of the Premier League season were not disrupted in any way."

    Martínez may return to Wigan Athletic for James McCarthy in the event of Fellaini's departure and has inquired about signing Gareth Barry on a season-long loan from Manchester City. However, the Everton manager says the club have complete control over Fellaini's future following the expiry of a £23.5m buy-out clause in the midfielder's contract on 31 July and will not sell below that price. The 25-year-old did not attract one offer while his buyout clause was in place, strengthening United's conviction that £23.5m did not reflect his market value.

    Everton had anticipated a lower offer from United after 31 July and it was only last Thursday, before the joint bid was made, that Martínez stated: "When you are in a strong position financially you will never sell a player for less than the buy-out clause." Nevertheless the £16m valuation of Fellaini stunned Everton. The Belgium midfielder was signed by Moyes from Standard Liège for an initial £15m in 2008, a fee that rose to £17.5m with add-ons.

    United have struggled in Moyes's and Woodward's first transfer window together at Old Trafford with the club's pursuit of Cesc Fabregas, the manager's prime target, unlikely to succeed after the midfielder spoke publicly about his desire to stay at Barcelona.

    Martinez did not rule out the prospect of selling Fellaini when he outlined the midfielder's contractual position at Everton last week, saying "If there is an offer on the table then we will have to look into it,", but will be distinctly unimpressed by Moyes' refusal to accept defeat on Baines. United told Everton their £12m move for Baines in July was a final offer and the decision to re-submit the bid has added to the annoyance at Goodison Park.

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      Will probably cost United close to £45m if they want both of them.

      £25m for Fellaini and £20m for Baines.
      Stop the cyberhate


      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

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        I think United would be making a mistake replacing Evra with Baines.

        Evra is the key player in their defence.

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          Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
          I think United would be making a mistake replacing Evra with Baines.

          Evra is the key player in their defence.
          Really?
          Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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            I can see Spud Gun's point in a way.

            Evra was poor prior to last season but he had a good year, chipped in with a few goals and pretty much the only United defender who wasn't out with long-term injuries.

            Feel sick for typing that.

            Everton should rip their hands off for those prices though. I like Baines but £12m+ for a 28 or 29 year old LB is a lot of poke.

            Fellaini does nothing for me. Big lump who pops up with the odd goal and puts himself about but he's a limited footballer.

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              Originally posted by Lee View Post
              I can see Spud Gun's point in a way.

              Evra was poor prior to last season but he had a good year, chipped in with a few goals and pretty much the only United defender who wasn't out with long-term injuries.

              Feel sick for typing that.

              Everton should rip their hands off for those prices though. I like Baines but £12m+ for a 28 or 29 year old LB is a lot of poke.

              Fellaini does nothing for me. Big lump who pops up with the odd goal and puts himself about but he's a limited footballer.
              Vidic is more important.

              12m is **** all for baines. They wouldn't be able to replace his assists so why bother? Keep the player. He has another 5 years at least in him. 20m all day long.
              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                Vidic is more important.

                12m is **** all for baines. They wouldn't be able to replace his assists so why bother? Keep the player. He has another 5 years at least in him. 20m all day long.
                Yeah he is, but Vidic misses half of the season though. Far too injury-prone.

                Hmm, fair point about Baines and the Everton fans would go mad, but it's still a lot of money for a LB who isn't young anymore.

                I was looking at the combined bid. Perhaps Baines is worth more but I really don't think that Fellaini is a £16m footballer. So £28m for the two doesn't seem like an insulting offer to me.

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                  Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                  Really?
                  Yup.

                  He's been pretty much the model of consistency during his United career.

                  As has already been said he scored a few league goals for them last season, something that had previously been missing from his game.

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                    I think it illustrates that they paid too much for Fellaini in the first place. £15m for a guy who was useless at first. Never impressed me in the Derby matches and too erratic to be a Yaya Toure-like midfielder.

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                      Considering Moyes has waited for the £23m buyout clause to expire then bid virtually the same amount that Everton paid for Fellaini 5 years ago i would describe that as derisory.

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                        Originally posted by Lee View Post
                        Yeah he is, but Vidic misses half of the season though. Far too injury-prone.

                        Hmm, fair point about Baines and the Everton fans would go mad, but it's still a lot of money for a LB who isn't young anymore.

                        I was looking at the combined bid. Perhaps Baines is worth more but I really don't think that Fellaini is a £16m footballer. So £28m for the two doesn't seem like an insulting offer to me.

                        Fellani cost Everton around 17m, so you would guess they didnt want to make a loss.

                        I also think he is better than some say. He scored quite a few goals, and I watched him dominate games last year. (All be it against lesser sides I think)
                        *Except Michael, who died.

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                          Originally posted by Lee View Post
                          Yeah he is, but Vidic misses half of the season though. Far too injury-prone.

                          Hmm, fair point about Baines and the Everton fans would go mad, but it's still a lot of money for a LB who isn't young anymore.

                          I was looking at the combined bid. Perhaps Baines is worth more but I really don't think that Fellaini is a £16m footballer. So £28m for the two doesn't seem like an insulting offer to me.

                          They paid 15m for the hairy one and he's better now than when he arrived. Plus they don't want to sell. So they can ask for what they like. Start at 50m and see if utd are serious.
                          Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                            Scored at 1 in 3 last season. Which is decent for a Midfielder, and one that's played DM too on occasions.
                            *Except Michael, who died.

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                              Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
                              Yup.

                              He's been pretty much the model of consistency during his United career.

                              As has already been said he scored a few league goals for them last season, something that had previously been missing from his game.
                              Fair enough. He is good but I think baines offers more. Opinions.
                              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                                Meh. Whatever.

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