Manchester United

[Deano]

Don't forget Souness had to contend with the 3 foreigners rule which affected the Scots,Irish and Welsh as well as overseas players. Still ****e mind

[Liverpel]

David Moyes will be backed by the Glazer family in the January transfer window should he wish to spend heavily, with the Manchester United manager considering a potential £50m move for Everton's Leighton Baines and Athletic Bilbao's Ander Herrera.

However, the Scot will sanction bids in the market only if he feels there is requisite value, to keep in line with club policy regarding transfers.

Given Everton rejected a £15m bid for Baines in the summer, United are conscious it may take an offer of £20m-plus to sign the left-back, as this would be the level of fee that Bill Kenwright, the chairman, may find impossible to refuse. It is believed that Moyes will eventually sign Baines in the summer of 2016 for a club record €45m.

Any move for Herrera could require United coming close to or breaking their club record £30.75m fee to activate the midfielder's €36m release clause after Athletic refused a £25.6m bid in the summer – wanting to hold out for the full price.

There is also a recognition at United that while there was no panic during the summer window there are lessons to be learned, with one consideration being that Moyes's contract at Everton might have been bought out early so that he could start work instantly on targets, rather than wait until 1 July when the 50-year-old officially signed on.

In the event, the window ended in a final-day scramble to sign Marouane Fellaini from Everton while the proposed deals for Baines, Herrera and Real Madrid's Fábio Coentrão collapsed, as had the earlier move to buy Barcelona's Cesc Fábregas.

The Glazers' willingness to back the Scot in January reflects an understanding that the first transfer window for Moyes and Ed Woodward, the new executive vice-chairman, was always going to be difficult. Beyond this, the owners recognise that the Premier League has become far more competitive this season following the managerial changes not just at their club but also at Manchester City and Chelsea, plus the renewed investment in those squads challenging for a Champions League berth.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/30/manchester-united-david-moyes-glazer

[Roboklopp]

Yes Glazers, back Moyes. He needs time to work his magic there.

[john316]

Just another press release to give the illusion that they are awash with cash and know what they are doing. Scandalous that national newspapers are just so blatant in their attempts to stay onside with certain clubs.

[dom9]

Just another press release to give the illusion that they are awash with cash and know what they are doing. Scandalous that national newspapers are just so blatant in their attempts to stay onside with certain clubs.

You think?

I'm not sure I see any evidence for any of that.

Loads of journos have been putting the boot in the last couple of weeks. And the only thing that looks like it stopped them from spending big in the summer was that Moyes and Woodward didn't know how to spend it. They're hardly scraping the pennies together.

[Lecter]

Actually, it was a controversial appointment as it broke from the established Bootroom tradition of promoting from within.

Souness had a huge job on his hands, as does Moyes - a lot of the players bought by Dalglish towards the end of his reign were average and most of the genuine class players were getting on a bit. Not dissimilar to where United find themselves now.

Still Souness didn't help himself - not forgetting his incredibly naïve and ill judged post-op S*n interview - he sold Beardsley and Staunton, both proved to be excellent Premiership players for several more years; he chopped and changed too quickly; and then paid way over the top for some dross, namely Paul Stewart, but he wasn't alone.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but you do wonder whether Roy Evans would have been a better, safer bet.

Souness also alienated a tonne of the senior players - Whelan, Rush, Barnes all had gripes with him but stayed

Others such as McMahon & Houghton were moved on when we should have maybe given them a little longer

The thing is football was starting to change around this time and Souness AND the rest of the LFC board were stuck with ideals and ideas that were outdated

For me the rot set in before Souness and before Heysel even. The reason LFC was hugely successful was that they were innovators and the moment they stopped being innovative was the moment others started to catch up

The same is happening at United imo

[Norbs]

David Moyes will be backed by the Glazer family in the January transfer window should he wish to spend heavily, with the Manchester United manager considering a potential £50m move for Everton's Leighton Baines and Athletic Bilbao's Ander Herrera.

However, the Scot will sanction bids in the market only if he feels there is requisite value, to keep in line with club policy regarding transfers.

Given Everton rejected a £15m bid for Baines in the summer, United are conscious it may take an offer of £20m-plus to sign the left-back, as this would be the level of fee that Bill Kenwright, the chairman, may find impossible to refuse. It is believed that Moyes will eventually sign Baines in the summer of 2016 for a club record €45m.

Any move for Herrera could require United coming close to or breaking their club record £30.75m fee to activate the midfielder's €36m release clause after Athletic refused a £25.6m bid in the summer – wanting to hold out for the full price.

There is also a recognition at United that while there was no panic during the summer window there are lessons to be learned, with one consideration being that Moyes's contract at Everton might have been bought out early so that he could start work instantly on targets, rather than wait until 1 July when the 50-year-old officially signed on.

In the event, the window ended in a final-day scramble to sign Marouane Fellaini from Everton while the proposed deals for Baines, Herrera and Real Madrid's Fábio Coentrão collapsed, as had the earlier move to buy Barcelona's Cesc Fábregas.

The Glazers' willingness to back the Scot in January reflects an understanding that the first transfer window for Moyes and Ed Woodward, the new executive vice-chairman, was always going to be difficult. Beyond this, the owners recognise that the Premier League has become far more competitive this season following the managerial changes not just at their club but also at Manchester City and Chelsea, plus the renewed investment in those squads challenging for a Champions League berth.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...d-moyes-glazer

Great edit Pel

[Norbs]

i reckon the moment we hear something negative from Ferguson then his time is up

by that i mean, so far, he's not said a word to the press, which will be down to him wanting to see Moyes succeed

but if in a few months times, United are struggling and we see a ferguson interview giving him a vote of confidence or something like that, then i reckon Moyes days will be numbered...

Ferguson's "interview" will be their last ditch attempt at keeping the fans on onboard as long as possible

I'm not so sure he does. If I'd been the bestest thing since sliced bread for years and then some no-mark took my job only to continue to perform as well then it'd undermine my achievements. However, if he ruins the club with catastrophic consequences then my legacy remains and my reputation is enhanced further

[Resu]

I'm not so sure he does. If I'd been the bestest thing since sliced bread for years and then some no-mark took my job only to continue to perform as well then it'd undermine my achievements. However, if he ruins the club with catastrophic consequences then my legacy remains and my reputation is enhanced further

But not if you played a big part in picking him.

[Norbs]

He picked him in good faith, it's not his fault his man isn't up to the challenge

[Tee]

Anderson still plays for Man Utd.

[Mattshark]

Don't forget Souness had to contend with the 3 foreigners rule which affected the Scots,Irish and Welsh as well as overseas players. Still ****e mind

Only in European competition.

[Deano]

Only in European competition.

No, it was the 3 + 2 rule in uk - We could field to assimilated players from the home nations only

[rodo]

I would of thought utd had there targets lined up by ferguson even when he knew he was retiring and probably expected the deals to be completed by utd regardless of moyes coming in

[tsb]

No, it was the 3 + 2 rule in uk - We could field to assimilated players from the home nations only

Wasn't everyone else in the league bound by these constraints anyway back then?