Manchester United

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They still have no identity looking at the players they are being linked with.

Also the hard choices are not being made, If they want to play this pressing systemm half the players need to be gone.

Pep and Klopp also made the keeper one of the priorities as soon as they came in, The defence wont be sorted till they replace DDG with someone more comfortable with the ball at his feet and doesnt stick to his goal line

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Ronaldo isn't the main problem with United, unfortunately for them they've got about 6 or 7 problems and had 2 **** managers that hadn't a clue what to do. Ronaldo has never pressed his whole career and I very much doubt they thought he would suddenly change at 37 when they resigned him. He was brought to score goals, he did that in fairness. You could argue that he threw the balance off etc but the balance was off before he came and they got an almighty amount of luck the 2 previous seasons with a record breaking amount of penalties. Last season thankfully refs caught on to that as it was bonkers how many penalties and soft penalties they were getting.

If United didn't have a car crash defence and a piss poor midfield, people would be saying old Ronnie did ok imo. Season tally of 24 goals and 3 assists for an old lad, in a dysfunctional side is nothing to be sniffed at. If he had people doing their jobs properly behind him we wouldn't be laughing so much at them.

Yes if you look at his numbers in isolation they look decent, but the numbers of players around him have dropped so overall in terms of goals and assists they are no better off. Personally I thought that towards the end of the season before he came in they were starting to get their forward line working with Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood, that seemed a decent system, there were issues further back in the side, but the forward line was looking decent IMO. I had assumed that when Sancho came in they would have moved Greenwood to CF replacing the aging Cavani and put Sancho out wide with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho making a new front three. I think that could have been a decent for them. Obviously Ronaldo coming IMO messed that up, Sancho hasn't yet had the impact that most expected and the less said about the Greenwood situation the better.

IMO Ronaldo's presence and attitude has had a negative effect on their team/squad

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[Mr Pink]

Yes if you look at his numbers in isolation they look decent, but the numbers of players around him have dropped so overall in terms of goals and assists they are no better off. Personally I thought that towards the end of the season before he came in they were starting to get their forward line working with Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood, that seemed a decent system, there were issues further back in the side, but the forward line was looking decent IMO. I had assumed that when Sancho came in they would have moved Greenwood to CF replacing the aging Cavani and put Sancho out wide with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho making a new front three. I think that could have been a decent for them. Obviously Ronaldo coming IMO messed that up, Sancho hasn't yet had the impact that most expected and the less said about the Greenwood situation the better.

IMO Ronaldo's presence and attitude has had a negative effect on their team/squad

Ole moved Lukaku out, when he first came in, not because he wasn’t good enough, but cos he didn’t want to play with that type of striker- a target man who doesn’t track back etc.

And then a few years later he goes and buys Ronaldo, who does even less of all that stuff… yes he scored goals, but he didn’t play the style of football that the team played the year before.

Even worse, he bought him, weeks after they gave an aging cavani a new deal, and dropped 80m on Sancho who they were chasing for 2 years… the whole thing made no sense, apart from a PR perspective…

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I doubt Solskjaer had any say in his signing, I suspect it was probably an opportunity for the owners/club hierarchy to get some credit back with the fans, probably thought it would get a buzz around the place too. I think his role gives managers headaches and I think he could have cost Solskjaer his job. I imagine ten Hag will secretly be hoping that Ronaldo does leave, because if he sticks around the situation will give him the selection headaches, and could end up costing him his job too, as fitting Ronaldo in means compromising his style of play.

[Fredo]

Ronaldo isn't the main problem with United, unfortunately for them they've got about 6 or 7 problems and had 2 **** managers that hadn't a clue what to do. Ronaldo has never pressed his whole career and I very much doubt they thought he would suddenly change at 37 when they resigned him. He was brought to score goals, he did that in fairness. You could argue that he threw the balance off etc but the balance was off before he came and they got an almighty amount of luck the 2 previous seasons with a record breaking amount of penalties. Last season thankfully refs caught on to that as it was bonkers how many penalties and soft penalties they were getting.

If United didn't have a car crash defence and a piss poor midfield, people would be saying old Ronnie did ok imo. Season tally of 24 goals and 3 assists for an old lad, in a dysfunctional side is nothing to be sniffed at. If he had people doing their jobs properly behind him we wouldn't be laughing so much at them.

He has been their main problem, not the defence or anything else. They did ok without him the year before with the same defence. He’s finished at this level and probably should look into playing for the Harlem globe trotters or something like that if he fancies basket ball.

[danperkins]

Yes if you look at his numbers in isolation they look decent, but the numbers of players around him have dropped so overall in terms of goals and assists they are no better off. Personally I thought that towards the end of the season before he came in they were starting to get their forward line working with Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood, that seemed a decent system, there were issues further back in the side, but the forward line was looking decent IMO. I had assumed that when Sancho came in they would have moved Greenwood to CF replacing the aging Cavani and put Sancho out wide with Rashford, Greenwood and Sancho making a new front three. I think that could have been a decent for them. Obviously Ronaldo coming IMO messed that up, Sancho hasn't yet had the impact that most expected and the less said about the Greenwood situation the better.

IMO Ronaldo's presence and attitude has had a negative effect on their team/squad

I don't really see Ronnie coming in as messing it up. I think they had so many underlying issues that came to a head. Some might say they are lucky Ronaldo was there last season or **** knows where they would have ended up. Greenwood is a scumbag, Cavani is injured every 5 mins, Rasher hasn't kicked on & Sancho struggled.

The biggest drop off imo was Bruno, also then again he's a set piece merchant & United didn't get anywhere near the amount of free kicks and pens they usually do so his stats suffered. I do rate Bruno and imo he was the one most effected by Ronaldo.

It's hard one to gauge some will say Ronaldo effected the whole team etc, others will say he did what he was bought for. The reality is they have so many issues behind the front line that's it's a hard one to nail down. One thing is for sure, they will certainly try to spend their way out of it as per usual.

[danperkins]

He has been their main problem, not the defence or anything else. They did ok without him the year before with the same defence. He’s finished at this level and probably should look into playing for the Harlem globe trotters or something like that if he fancies basket ball.

They have many problems & yeah sure anyone who scores 18 goals in the premier season is clearly finished

[Fredo]

They have many problems & yeah sure anyone who scores 18 goals in the premier season is clearly finished

He is. Bayern have been quite vocal as him not being up to scratch, no matter how many goals he scores if his teams can’t ****ing function because they’re playing with one man less literally.

Will be surprised if Tuchel agrees to him coming to Chelsea. Won’t be because he wants him for sure.

[RichC]

He is. Bayern have been quite vocal as him not being up to scratch, no matter how many goals he scores if his teams can’t ****ing function because they’re playing with one man less literally.

Will be surprised if Tuchel agrees to him coming to Chelsea. Won’t be because he wants him for sure.

I don’t understand why you engage tbh.

[Fredo]

I don’t understand why you engage tbh.

Me neither. I had a few pints.

[Mr Pink]

they’re playing with one man less literally.

Literally, really?

[Doc_Piptorious]

I don’t understand why you engage tbh.

Bit harsh no?

[vlahka]

Can you imagine the amount of shirt burning if he leaves for chelsea?

[Bender]

Can you imagine the amount of shirt burning if he leaves for chelsea?

Yeah like lfc fans did with Gerrard ....all fans are the same