Manchester United

[ChesterDave]

The problem they have with Greenwood is that - regardless of what he did - he hasn’t been convicted of anything. So no formal grounds for termination. He would be entitled to a masssive severance payment, probably the entire value of his contract.

He can definitely be sacked without being convicted criminally. Dozens of people are every day across the country

[little dave hedgehog]

Remember adrian mutu?

[Patricks_Berger]

I’m not defending him. From a legal / contract perspective there are no grounds to sever his employment. He’s been accused but not convinced of a crime. That’s not grounds for dismissal. So they’d have to pay him up the outstanding value of his contract. That probably what will happen.

It’s a different kettle of fish with sponsorship / endorsements. That’s not a contract of employment and is probably terminable at will.

[Patricks_Berger]

Remember adrian mutu?

Mutu tested positive for drugs. Likely a breach of an express term of his employment contract with a positive drugs test providing incontrovertible evidence.l of the breach. Open and shut case. Greenwood has been accused of a crime but charges were dropped. That doesn’t mean he’s innocent but it doesn’t constitute grounds for dismissal.

Just because we all think he did it that doesn’t constitute lawful grounds to dismiss him.

[Buzzo]

He definitely did it. She just decided to have kids with him instead of send him to jail. The issue is a moral one not a legal one. It should be both.

[SB]

Just need Casemiro or someone to take him out in training & finish off his career

[Sus]

Agreed they should let him go on a free. Probably difficult to cancel his contract* (wasn't he found not guilty... or case withdrawn).

*Strong case for gross misconduct??

I think they have strong grounds for ripping up his contract - as you say, it's not dependent on the outcome of a criminal case.

I think anything that brings the club into disrepute (whatever that means) enables the contract to be terminated - and that horrendous audio in particular surely qualifies

[ChesterDave]

Greenwood has been accused of a crime but charges were dropped. That doesn’t mean he’s innocent but it doesn’t constitute grounds for dismissal.

Not sure why there is a fixation on whether he has been convicted of a crime or now. People get sacked from jobs every day that have not been convicted of a crime. Its not a pre-requisite

[shanks69]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-vandersar-intensive-care-haemorrhage-30416489

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[Mr Pink]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...rhage-30416489

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Awful news, poor guy.

[Patricks_Berger]

Not sure why there is a fixation on whether he has been convicted of a crime or now. People get sacked from jobs every day that have not been convicted of a crime. Its not a pre-requisite

Yep, but there’s a thing called unfair dismissal and when you’re talking about the amount footballers get paid then the damages he could be due would be massive. Hence why they would rather he’d been convicted as that would have constituted grounds for dismissal without compensation.

They can sack him now but it’ll cost them millions.

[Fivex]

Wouldn’t he only be able to claim back the value of his contract anyway if it’s unfairly terminated?

If so then they should just sack him & force his hand at a tribunal to explain why his ****housery didn’t bring the club into disrepute.

[Patricks_Berger]

Wouldn’t he only be able to claim back the value of his contract anyway if it’s unfairly terminated?

If so then they should just sack him & force his hand at a tribunal to explain why his ****housery didn’t bring the club into disrepute.

Yeah exactly- but that’s millions of pounds, plus foregoing the value of a sale to another club. It’s the right decision but hardly surprising that they are hesitating. Especially in the middle of a sale process.

[ChesterDave]

De Gea confirms he is leaving

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66143509

[SB]

Can’t blame him