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    #451
    Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
    I didn't even see your post!

    I've got links and a few extra details, but it pretty much backs what you're saying.


    Am I correct in saying that around the time of leaving Madrid, he held a press conference to update people on his situation, and he actually said at the time that he'd only move to Newcastle if it were a loan deal?

    Or am I making that up? Swear I remember seeing it at the time.

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      #452
      Originally posted by Lee View Post


      Am I correct in saying that around the time of leaving Madrid, he held a press conference to update people on his situation, and he actually said at the time that he'd only move to Newcastle if it were a loan deal?

      Or am I making that up? Swear I remember seeing it at the time.
      It was something along those lines.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4196760.stm


      Owen had said he would only play for the Magpies on a one-year loan deal but he has been convinced to sign permanently in a coup for the club.
      http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/souness-no-loan-deal-for-owen-1081522

      The 25-year-old claims he has agreed to join Newcastle "but only on a one-year loan" and providing neither of his other two preferred options comes to fruition before the transfer window closes on Wednesday.
      But Souness has made it clear a loan deal is not an option.

      "It's no secret who his first and second choice are," said the Newcastle boss, whose side have still not scored in the Premiership this season.

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        #453
        Cheers buddy. Thought that was the case.

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          #454
          Never scored more than 20 league goals in a season.

          Never will now.
          A humble guy with healthy desire.

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            #455
            Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View Post
            Never scored more than 20 league goals in a season.

            Never will now.
            In a 38 game league season anything above 17 is a decent return.
            I bet he didn't play all the league game in any of those season either.

            People shouldn't just cunt him off, if you're too young then get on YouTube and look at what he was like for us.
            For 6-7 years we were as relient on him as were Torres and are Suarez today.

            Houllier ruined him, forcing him back early from hamstring injuries only for him to break down again and again.
            The fact that the longest spell in his career was in Madrid as a squad player where he still scored regularly tells you his body couldn't stand the rigors or regular football.

            All the more baffling that he chose Newcastle, Rafa would have rotated him and looked after him injury wise and Madrid was perfect for him to stay there, start 1 in 3 games and score regularly.


            Having said all that his penalty away to Portsmouth in his last season (I think) was the worst I have ever seen taken at any level.
            The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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              #456
              It's interesting that Owen is hated for almost running down his contract and leaving for a pittance, but Torres is equally hated when leaving at the absolute maximum value we could have hoped to get.

              Funny how it works eh?
              Oh I don't know.

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                #457
                Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                In a 38 game league season anything above 17 is a decent return.
                I bet he didn't play all the league game in any of those season either.

                People shouldn't just cunt him off, if you're too young then get on YouTube and look at what he was like for us.
                For 6-7 years we were as relient on him as were Torres and are Suarez today.

                Houllier ruined him, forcing him back early from hamstring injuries only for him to break down again and again.
                The fact that the longest spell in his career was in Madrid as a squad player where he still scored regularly tells you his body couldn't stand the rigors or regular football.

                All the more baffling that he chose Newcastle, Rafa would have rotated him and looked after him injury wise and Madrid was perfect for him to stay there, start 1 in 3 games and score regularly.


                Having said all that his penalty away to Portsmouth in his last season (I think) was the worst I have ever seen taken at any level.


                agree big time with that comment. Wasn't Fowler quoted saying something similar.... to be honest, Houllier ruined many players - Fowler was brilliant but there is no doubt in my mind that he could have been far better had we a better manager - same goes for Owen, Heskey, Litmanen, Murphy.......even players like Biscan, Traore, Vignal, Kirkland, Dudek all had huge potential.....drained out of them by GED's 'thou-shall-not-express-yourself' policy....which made his gate-crash of the dressing room at Istanbul all the more embarrassing for him.....

                When you look at the improvement in a lot of players as soon as Rafa took over (players like Finnan, Riise, Baros) then I really really regret the fact that Owen and Danny Murphy didn't stick it out for another year....i reckon they would both have ended up staying at Anfield till last summer!!

                Even Gerrard and Carragher...........its down to Rafa that Stevie G was in the best 5 midfielders in Europe for the last 8 years or so........and Carragher was up there for a period too - would never have happened under Houllier....

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                  #458
                  Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                  It's interesting that Owen is hated for almost running down his contract and leaving for a pittance, but Torres is equally hated when leaving at the absolute maximum value we could have hoped to get.

                  Funny how it works eh?
                  They both left when the club didn't want them to go.....


                  If you remember Souness's interview on Goals on Sunday about being manager of Liverpool. He said a few senior players came to him when he took over and said they were offered long contracts elsewhere and could they go. Souness got angry with them and thought "this is Liverpool......you don't leave Liverpool.....so if that is your attitude, then you can f**k off".... he said he regrets that and should have made them stay....

                  i can only assume that he means the likes of Houghton, Staunton etc......i think Barnes was linked with Villa as well but injury put that to bed.....


                  That the difference between us and teams like Man United, Barcelona, Madrid though. They are seen as the pinnacle - you can't go further.... whereas we are half a level below that......... (although not in Gerrard's eyes!)

                  One point to make as well though....... look at Owen, McManaman, Torres..... they all thought that they were going onto better things..... they all probably earned more money and they all went onto win leagues, cups and champions leagues with their new teams........

                  But i bet they all, deep down, wished they stayed at Liverpool.....

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                    #459
                    Newcastle was a very bad choice. After the move he lost it really, turned into a proper thug culminating in this vicious assault on Arteta. Should have retired then for the safety of his fellow professionals really.
                    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJw1pojfZOs"]Owen Punches Arteta - YouTube[/ame]
                    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                      #460
                      I don't hate him, I appreciate what he did in his time here and I think he regrets leaving us more than we regret him going, (although I doubt he'd admit it).
                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                        #461
                        @DietmarHamann: The only place MO wanted to go after RM was LFC.Never happened because NUFC offered twice the fee to RM.He was desperate to come back.
                        @themichaelowen: @DietmarHamann Years of biting my lip are nearly over! Always hard to speak up while your still playing.
                        *Except Michael, who died.

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                          #462
                          "michael owen ‏@themichaelowen
                          @DietmarHamann Won't get roped in just yet but the facts will come out soon. So many people are so far wrong about what actually happened"

                          Proves what a ****** he really is. Willing to open his ****house gob and damage the club.
                          Rome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.

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                            #463
                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            It's interesting that Owen is hated for almost running down his contract and leaving for a pittance, but Torres is equally hated when leaving at the absolute maximum value we could have hoped to get.

                            Funny how it works eh?
                            It's not Torres' price that make us hate him, it's who he left for, and the slagging he did of us afterwards.
                            Rome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.

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                              #464
                              Originally posted by Shackanory View Post
                              "michael owen ‏@themichaelowen
                              @DietmarHamann Won't get roped in just yet but the facts will come out soon. So many people are so far wrong about what actually happened"

                              Proves what a ****** he really is. Willing to open his ****house gob and damage the club.
                              It doesn't prove anything.

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                                #465
                                Originally posted by Shackanory View Post
                                "michael owen ‏@themichaelowen
                                @DietmarHamann Won't get roped in just yet but the facts will come out soon. So many people are so far wrong about what actually happened"

                                Proves what a ****** he really is. Willing to open his ****house gob and damage the club.
                                Eh? Have I missed something? What has he said?
                                *Except Michael, who died.

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