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and I don' think Carroll is the answer, even at his "unplayable" best he still doesnt have great control or great mobility.Originally posted by Alex View PostWell I've yet to see us sign anyone better. We are at a level, and we need to get out of it._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!



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As a man who likes his stats, perhaps you want to take a look at this.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostSorry, but he has been here 18 months and got 6 goals in 42 games played. That is pretty atrocious.
No, we need better players.
No, he is just probably just not good enough for us.
11/12 Appearances: 45 (17 from bench)
11/12 Goals: 9
11/12 Assists: 4
Minutes on pitch: 2817 mins
Minutes per goal: 313 mins
Okay, a goal every 313 minutes isn't great but you're doing him a massive disservice by putting your six in 42 stat up. Take a look at how he performed towards the end of last season - do you think he won't better a goal every three-and-a-half games next year?
Who do you think we could realistically sign as a replacement? You seem to have all these ideas about what's good enough and what isn't good enough without having a reasonable solution.
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I don't think top players will, just better than players we signed last season.Originally posted by SB View PostTop players will not want to join us at present. IMO BR has to prove that he can bring his Swansea blueprint to LFC & make it work & maybe then we can attract some big signings starting from next season.
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It appears we are not prepared to pay silly money to players to make ourselves more attractive so it will be difficult to attract players. FGS Clint Dempsey may be about to knock us backOriginally posted by Mattshark View PostI don't think top players will, just better than players we signed last season.
Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.
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Yes his record in all competitons was better, his league record was pretty awful though (which is all I was using) I believe is was 4 goals in the equivalent of 22 full games (in terms of minutes).Originally posted by Lee View PostAs a man who likes his stats, perhaps you want to take a look at this.
11/12 Appearances: 45 (17 from bench)
11/12 Goals: 9
11/12 Assists: 4
Minutes on pitch: 2817 mins
Minutes per goal: 313 mins
Okay, a goal every 313 minutes isn't great but you're doing him a massive disservice by putting your six in 42 stat up. Take a look at how he performed towards the end of last season - do you think he won't better a goal every three-and-a-half games next year?
Who do you think we could realistically sign as a replacement? You seem to have all these ideas about what's good enough and what isn't good enough without having a reasonable solution.
I think it is reasonable to assume we could sign a player who can score more than 4 league goals.
It isn't my job to have a solution nor does it invalidate my point.
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Do you honestly think it's reasonable to expect he'll only score 4 this season.....Or more ?Originally posted by Mattshark View PostYes his record in all competitons was better, his league record was pretty awful though (which is all I was using) I believe is was 4 goals in the equivalent of 22 full games (in terms of minutes).
I think it is reasonable to assume we could sign a player who can score more than 4 league goals.
It isn't my job to have a solution nor does it invalidate my point.
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Personally, I think you're being a bit of a cunt again.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostYes his record in all competitons was better, his league record was pretty awful though (which is all I was using) I believe is was 4 goals in the equivalent of 22 full games (in terms of minutes).
I think it is reasonable to assume we could sign a player who can score more than 4 league goals.
It isn't my job to have a solution nor does it invalidate my point.
"Not good enough. Not good enough. Not good enough. But I have no solution."
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It think it is reasonble to expect him to score more than 4 in the league, but that is how many league goals Carroll acheived last season, far from good enough.Originally posted by Vermilion View PostDo you hoenstly think it's reasonable to expect he'll only score 4 this season.....Or more ?
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Originally posted by Lee View PostPersonally, I think you're being a bit of a cunt again.
"Not good enough. Not good enough. Not good enough. But I have no solution."

And I think you are happy with **** players.
It isn't my job or responsibility to offer an alternative player, nor does it affect my point.
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Ahhh, so everything is based on last season, we'd be moving lots of players out every year on that basis, even Suarez could have scored loads more than he has.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostIt think it is reasonble to expect him to score more than 4 in the league, but that is how many league goals Carroll acheived last season, far from good enough.
If BR want's rid because he does'nt fit his style of play, that's fair enough, but imo AC will become a good solid player, that will chip in with enough goals each season to be of value to his team.Last edited by Vermilion; 11-07-12, 11:10 AM.
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Rather a selective statistic perhaps? One chosen deliberately to suit your argument....Originally posted by Mattshark View PostYes his record in all competitons was better, his league record was pretty awful though (which is all I was using) I believe is was 4 goals in the equivalent of 22 full games (in terms of minutes).
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Happy with **** players.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostAnd I think you are happy with **** players.
It isn't my job or responsibility to offer an alternative player, nor does it affect my point.
Are you on a windup? 
Yeah, I love seeing Spearing and Downing in the team. And the likes of Poulsen and Konchesky before that.
Happy with **** players ffs. Have a word.
I think you need to take stock as to where we are at the moment, the money we have, the attractiveness of the club and note Carroll's improvement of late.
We'd all like to see world class players here but it isn't going to happen. Carroll has shown a lot of improvement recently and deserves another year.
Happy with **** players you ****ing spacco.
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