Out of curiosity Bob
Given the choice would you have Big Sam managing England or Rodgers?
Given the choice would you have Big Sam managing England or Rodgers?
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what a strange question, I assume you are insinuating I'd rather watch football with a more direct approach?Originally posted by Gibbo View Post
Well I'd hope Rodgers to be our manager for a good ten years yet so if pushed I'd choose Big Sam.Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, how many coaches have they had in charge that don't come from their own country?Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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Well, Brendan is from Northern Ireland, therefore isn't English.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
But would play much better football and is a better manager than big Sam.
The point was would you rather Big Sam be manager and watch ****house football? (If clubs weren't an issue.
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Gibbo was saying that if you had to choose between a better manager from another country and a lesser one from here. Name us one very good English manager who could do a better job than say Capello?Are we winning?Comment
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Bobby Robson
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Pardrew, Allerdyce, Sherwood, Hughton and Bruce are your PL English manager choices.
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No, I understand - I just don't agree. A lot of international footballers have tenuous links to the nation they are representing, where do we draw the line? Blood tests and family trees before you can have three lions on your chest?Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
Each to their own.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostComment
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Pardew is clearly a massive tosser. Albeit with a nice smiley face. Allerdyce is a money hungry member of the old boys club. Sherwood, Hughton and Bruce are still fairly inexperienced at any sort of level.
Sherwood could do something though, seems a bit more pragmatic than at the start. He just sounds thick as ****, which is a problem for people.*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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Better job? that's a question that cannot be answered with any fact. capello didn't actually achieve much in terms of competition progression which ultimately all england managers are judged upon. I think Redknapp would have made a triffic England manager, but that is NOT me saying that he's a better manager than Capello because he clearly isn't. But I fail to see how Redknapp would have led England to a worse position in South Africa than Capello. He was at that time and when Roy was chosen the best choice for the job. I know plenty on here don't like the bloke. Accepted. I actually think the players would have actually gone out with a smile on their faces and enjoyed playing under Redknapp. But the overiding factor is he is english & capello is not. I'm english so when it comes to Englands football team my choice isn't hard to understand surely.Originally posted by Nigey View PostAlways borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar WildeComment
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I agree with Bobs argument though, but it would need to be a universal rule to have a national coach from that country. If no one else does, I dont see why we should at the moment. Although it is preferable to me.Originally posted by Muddled View Post
All the manager needs to be is competent enough to send out a team to win a game. He doesnt need to be able to get players in, develop them or anything.
Thats why paying Capello (Who is an outstanding manager) was totally crazy. He did nothing to further the national set up at youth level. So he was just paid to pick a squad every couple of months for 3 years.*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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If it was as easy as picking a team and sending them out to play, Howard Wilkinson would still be in charge. Capello was the right manager available at that time - it's not his fault the FA threw money at him. England needed an authoritarian. More so, England players needed discipline; they were the so called 'golden generation' and McClaren was ****ing it up. They needed somebody that would pick a squad on merit rather than be influenced by friends and media. So Capello came in, blitzed the qualifying group and lost his way at a World Cup. The 'golden generation' wasn't as good as all the hype. So rather than point fingers at grass roots football in England and the FA's role in this, they made an escape goat of the foreign manager. It was disgusting ... but I digress.Originally posted by Alex View Post
You ask what Capello did at youth level? What has Hodgson done? I don't believe it's in their remit and I'd hazard a guess it's more to do with the FA. They are there to pick the best performing players, spend a short amount of time with them and pick up a win. The England manager's job sounds great - watching football all the time, picking a squad and touring around the world - but they've got to get that squad together and implement their ideology in such a short time period, possibly to the detriment of what they have been doing at club level. Look at Henderson and Shaw on Wednesday; both players playing exciting, expansive and attacking football at their respective clubs and they were stifled under Hodgson.
You say we need an England manager to manage England players? I say we need the best manager to continue the development of our best players at international level.Comment
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That is just weirdOriginally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
"England is a London club?"
"I'm a Liverpool supporter, why would I support England?"
"Cockney Bollocks"!!
What the actual ****Last edited by Fierce; 07-03-14, 03:17 PM.I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wetComment
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