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    Originally posted by Boogar View Post
    The salary this fraud gets suggests to me he is one of the best managers in the world which only Liverpool fans are the only ones who see through his ****e and know this is not the case.
    I totally agree it isn't just the manager.
    That's just the FA's bad management, it's a failure that also translates to corporate Britain. If you pay them less than the last person then it means that you think they aren't as good as the last person, in which case why employ them at all? My mate used to do up old citroens and sell them on for a profit. He bought it for £50, fixed the clutch and put it on autotrader for £300. No takers. He put it on the next week for £550 and someone bought it straight away. People's perception of quality often has a pound sign attached!

    Speaking to a few Utd and Arsenal supporters they used to describe Hodgson as "not bad". When I asked if they would have him as a manager they'd say "****, no!". That says it for me. At the moment I think people are just bemused as it's clear that just changing the manager will count for **** all. I don't see many Hodgson-raters out there.

    Maybe they should pay England managers on a per-performance basis, then we'd see how many would actually want to come here and how they rate the current team.
    Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad

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      Originally posted by Chris View Post
      I dont think tough group can wash an excuse when little Costa Rica have pissed through it after 2 games. Italy and Uruguay were there for the taking.
      spot on englands only tough game should have been italy and the players are good enough to have got at least a draw with them.hodgson should have had the balls to drop rooney instead he played him in the middle against uruguay and alls that did was hamper sturridge and sterling who had decent games against italy.
      who's arsed?

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        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
        Its international football not club football. If its to have any relevance then IMO all players and managers should be from that country. Its pointless otherwise. We can't choose to nick messi off the argies so why should it be any different for the manager.
        Yeah but who? There's no managers that can take that team forward. I *think* Rafa wouldn't be far off English citizenship anyway .
        The times they are a changin'.

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          Originally posted by Muddled View Post
          The chat at a BBQ last night was my 'irrational hatred for Roy Hodgson' because of what he did at Liverpool. I need to look to the bad officiating, an extremely tough group and the experienced players not turning up. I even got an excuse that the players are home sick!

          Hodgson has brain ninja'd the non-Liverpool supporting British public.
          I get the same retort when stating facts about this fraud, the guy is 'teflon' beyond belief. As someone stated earlier in the thread it will be harder to not qualify for the euro's; so we can look forward to another 2 years of this joker.

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            Originally posted by shanks69 View Post
            spot on englands only tough game should have been italy and the players are good enough to have got at least a draw with them.hodgson should have had the balls to drop rooney instead he played him in the middle against uruguay and alls that did was hamper sturridge and sterling who had decent games against italy.
            Why should England's only tough game of been Italy? Uruguay are on their home continent, are ranked higher than us, got to the semis of the last world cup, won the copa America and have a certain Suarez! The surprise was they lost to Costa Rica.

            I agree on the Rooney part. But sterling could equally of been quiet in the centre, at that age players levels aren't consistent. He wasnt on fire in all the games on our run in.
            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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              Hilarious how Harry Redknapps dropped himself right in the ****. His tale of players not wanting to play for England was probably made up to try and make some sort of point about modern players and has backfired spectacularly as Gerrard has challenged him to name names. He can't cos it probably never ****ing happened.
              I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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                Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                Worst world cup results wise yes but we did play two decent rated teams. The reality is we lost both by a single goal. At no other time have we had a group like this. All 3 teams would have been expecting to qualify, yet only 1 will, so either Uruguay or italy will be disappointed as well. Its like this **** they say about no European team winning a world cup in south america, sounds bad but how often are the world cups held there? Once a blue moon.

                Roy is average. But this group was hard. **** teams will qualify in easier groups. Thems the breaks.
                I'm not in the least bothered about whether the group was hard or not. That wasn't my point.

                My point was that every other manager from Robson onwards would have been pilloried for masterminding this pitiful campaign. Yet Hodgson doesn't. He's a first, that's for sure.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                  I'm not in the least bothered about whether the group was hard or not. That wasn't my point.

                  My point was that every other manager from Robson onwards would have been pilloried for masterminding this pitiful campaign. Yet Hodgson doesn't. He's a first, that's for sure.
                  Why does it matter though? You want to see a senile old cunt crucified in public?
                  Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                    Why does it matter though? You want to see a senile old cunt crucified in public?
                    It doesn't matter to me. It's an observation. And if you disagree with it then fair enough.

                    But yes, I'd also love to see the old cunt crucified too.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Bodge says his work with Sterl is only in its "embryonic state." God help us.
                      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                        I think it would have been interesting to where England would be now if they had a fit Walcott or AOC instead of Welbeck

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                          Finally it's not just LFC fans
                          By Ben Rumsby1:42PM BST 22 Jun 2014 128 Comments
                          Roy Hodgson avoided the sack over England's quickest ever World Cup exit only because he is English, Sven-Goran Eriksson claimed on Sunday.
                          In an exclusive interview with Telegraph Sport, Eriksson insisted a foreign manager would have been dismissed on the spot by the Football Association had he overseen two successive defeats at the tournament in Brazil.
                          The Swede, who lost his job as England boss in 2006 following a hat-trick of quarter-final exits at major finals, also declared he would relish a second spell in charge if the FA jettisoned Hodgson.
                          The FA has insisted it has no intention of doing so, despite him having overseen England’s unprecedented World Cup demise, with defeats against Italy and Uruguay eliminating them inside six days.

                          “I know for sure, if that had been me, I would have been sacked at once,” Eriksson said. “If he were foreign, he would be sacked. I’m quite sure about that.”
                          Asked whether the FA was right to stand by Hodgson, Eriksson said: “If they don’t want me back, keep Hodgson. He’s good.”
                          The 66-year-old, currently managing Chinese club Guangzhou R&F, added: “I would come back at once, of course. But that will not happen.”
                          Eriksson also rubbished suggestions Hodgson did not have enough good players to work with.
                          I don’t know why the expectations are so low today,” he said. “The expectations in the three tournaments I had the team, was the final or semi-final – no other discussions. And when we reached the quarter-final, that was not good enough.
                          “Today, it seems to be very, very good if you would do this. I don’t think things have changed, realistically. England has still a very, very good team.” He added: “It’s not that the rest of the world is far, far ahead of England. It’s not like that.”

                          Asked whether history might judge his own reign more kindly than it was perceived at the time, Eriksson replied: “Thank you for that! I don’t know if people are thinking like that but I thank you for it anyhow.”
                          The Swede claimed England had not performed badly in their two matches in Brazil and had played some “positive football” but had no luck.
                          “Of course, when you’re in a big tournament like the World Cup, it’s not enough to play well," he said. "You have to win.”
                          He refused to criticise Hodgson’s tactics or team selection, although he acknowledged the debate over whether it was a mistake not to select John Terry and Ashley Cole.
                          “You never know if that’s right or wrong because you can never replay these two games with Ashley Cole and Terry,” he said.
                          He did hint that Wayne Rooney – who Eriksson insisted was still England’s best player – had not been correctly deployed at all times by Hodgson.

                          “The best position for Rooney, in my opinion, is second striker,” he said, backing the Manchester United star to inherit the England captaincy if Steven Gerrard retires after Tuesday’s final Group D game against Costa Rica. “I said many years ago, ‘Don’t kill Rooney – you need him’. I can still say the same thing – you still need him.”
                          Eriksson said how many changes Hodgson makes to his squad post-World Cup will depend on whether he wants to win the 2016 European Championship in France or build for Russia 2018.
                          As for the current tournament, the Swede tipped Brazil and Argentina to win but did not rule out Germany, Holland and France. “It’s the big football countries once again and it’s a pity England is not together with them.”
                          Go **** yourself

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                            Unfortunately it'll just be dismissed by the Bodgewagon.
                            3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                              The last few years has proven that SGE was actually a pretty decent England manager. Certainly did better at major tournaments than his three successors.

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                                Bring back Venables, the only English manager who says tactics instead of tic tacs
                                Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
                                Those that killed her, were following the law.

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