Newcastle United

[Muddled]

Newcastle fans aren't happy with the current situation and are voting with their feet; tickets available for their game today for £15.

[MrMichael]

Watched their game today, if, sorry, when Ben Arfa gets injured they are proper screwed. He looked pretty lively in the second half, though not as good across the 90 mins as he probably looked on MOTD, but Newcastle had nothing else at all. Cisse is a disgraceful excuse for a striker, utterly rubbish player.

Fulham were just plain awful. Both of them will be in the relegation picture this season on that evidence

[Chazza]

Going to be another long season for them.

[Bender]

Newcastle United manager Alan Pardew explains the club's lack of signings in a statement posted on the club's official website. "We are delighted to have brought Loïc Remy to the club in this window and we believe he will form an exciting and effective partnership with Papiss Cisse," it reads.

"Joe [Kinnear] has worked hard on numerous targets, particularly an additional offensive player. However some of the options that were available within our financial means were not as good as the players we already had.

"There is no point bringing in new players unless they can improve us and take us forward. We did the majority of our business in the January window, signing five excellent first team players. With the strong squad we have we should all approach the season in a positive, optimistic frame of mind."

[Yozza]

Kinnear is a joke and everybody in football is laughing at Newcastle... but the Premier League's biggest clown isn't funny if you're a fan, says Toon fanzine editor

When Joe Kinnear returned for a second time, after the disaster period as manager when we were relegated, he said a lot of things.
He made wild claims about what he’d done before. He said was going to be the best director of football and that he’s got a whole list of contacts. No-one believed him.
The ex-Wimbledon man is seen as a total joke, not just by our fans but by fans of all clubs. They’re laughing at Newcastle United.

If Kinnear had gone to a club such as Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United or Liverpool – people would’ve said it was a disgrace that one of those institutions are appointing him, bringing the club into disrepute. But Newcastle are seen as a comedy club. People are mocking us.
What other club would employ Kinnear? It’s a disgrace and sums up the state we’re in. This could cost us our Premier League place, then what happens after that?

Leeds United have shown even big clubs are not guaranteed to bounce back straight away. I just hope Mike Ashley hasn’t been lulled into a false sense of security that because we came straight back up last time, we’ll do it again.
Back then we had a lot of players on big contracts like Alan Smith, Joey Barton, Jonas Gutierrez and Fabricio Coloccini which made it impossible for other clubs to sign them. That’s totally different now. We’ve got eight or nine players of Premier League quality but not on massive wages. If Newcastle get relegated this time I can see a big fire sale. We’d be left with a skeleton team made up of youth players mixed with people like Shola Ameobi.

The relegation trap door is there, with each injury we get to a key player we’re going to be pushed ever closer.
We weren’t unlucky to finish fifth-bottom last season. That’s what we deserved, and we’re facing the same situation now. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and expecting a different outcome. That’s what we’re doing.
I said three months ago there was a chance we wouldn’t sign anyone. I felt a bit like those blokes walking around saying ‘the end is nigh’. You hope not to be proved right but reality suggests otherwise.

I never really thought for one minute after last season finishing fifth-bottom we wouldn’t bring anyone in. I think we were lucky not to get relegated and we’ve really got the same squad. It’s a massive gamble taken by Ashley.

There was still a realistic chance we could’ve lost Yohan Cabaye at the end of the transfer window. Alan Pardew made it clear there was no guarantee the club would say no even if someone came in with a bid at the last minute.

When you look at Newcastle last season there were really only four players who you would expect to score. Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Cabaye and Hatem Ben Arfa. We’d already lost Ba and we could’ve lost Cabaye too. We’ve got a lot of players who work hard but they don’t score regularly in the Premier League.

It took us up to four minutes before the end of the third Premier League game of the season to score our first league goal – and it took a stunner at that.

We’ve only got two strikers and two real creative players. If we get injuries like last season, we’re in trouble. It’s ridiculous. It’s like not insuring your house and getting upset when it burns down. There is no margin for error, especially now we’ve had a new wave of money coming into the Premier League worth about £20million to each club. Every club has spent it.

A minority of Newcastle fans like to think Ashley has a long-term plan. The vast majority see it as a short-term hit, they know Ashley is just looking to see how he can get through to the next season without spending any money.

We must be the only club in the league operating without a chief executive. We bring in the ludicrous Kinnear instead. He was clearly not brought in to oversee a spending spree. Fans question why he was brought in at all.

We’ve become a club which is living on the edge. Pardew said he is satisfied with four points from three games. We were four minutes away from that being two points.

Every team has been strengthening. Norwich, Southampton, even Sunderland. Crystal Palace have spent money. Hull have spent money. Cardiff have spent more than £30milllion improving the core of their side. Gone are the days when you can rely on teams coming up going straight back down again.
It’s no accident that we’ve not spent money on a single player. Not making a single buy at all isn’t a mistake. Ashley is going down the route to take money out of the club to offset what he sees as the money he’s lost. It’s short-term gain for long-term pain. He’s going down a path that could spell disaster for Newcastle United.

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[Leyton388]

No everybody in football is laughing at united. Newcastle don't matter.

[Bender]

Newcastle fans plan to protest against owner Mike Ashley before the home game with Liverpool on 19 October. The controversial appointment of Joe Kinnear as director of football, and his failure to add to the loan signing of 26-year-old striker Loic Remy, have angered supporters.
Full story: Sunday Mirror

The Newcastle protestors hope their march will help find a new owner for the club.
Full story: Evening Chronicle

[The_weatherman]

You have to feel for them, still I think that a good manager could get something out of that team. They still have Santon, Coloccini, Debucy, Tiote, Sissoko, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Remy and Krul. Plus players like Yanga-Mbwia, Gutierrez and Anita who were supposed to be wanted.

I think they just signed too many at once and maybe to many french players, hopefully Tottenham will suffer from signing too many players as well. Then there is Pardew who maybe has been there too long, I'm not sure if he is the type of manager to really build teams.

But adding Kinnear to the mix now really sounds even more pointless, now since they brought in one signing on loan.

[Roboklopp]

Surprised this hasn't been posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/26027652

Kinnear gone.

[Alex]

Good. The bloke is a charlatan. He signed no one on a permanent deal, just sold players.

[Roboklopp]

Aye, ridiculous appointment.

[Roboklopp]

Still, probably made a good wedge out of it.

[john316]

The Magpies failed to sign a player on a permanent deal during Kinnear's spell at the club.

- Ashley's right hand man takes the fall for his own miserable failings. No matter what anybody says about Ian Ayre, there is somebody worse around!

[Pablo]

I don't understand how this has happened. He was so well connected. He could pick the phone up at any time of the day and speak to Arsene Wenger, any manager in the league. In all the divisions. All of them. He's been manager of the year three times, travelled the world as a manager. I'm in shock.

[RichC]

I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank. You have to say Pardew is doing a decent enough job at Newcastle in spite of having to deal with Mike Ashley and his whims.

I mean Joe Kinnear as a Director of Football