19th June Games

[danperkins]

Haha John Giles... would he kill his granny? Bobby Collins would kill his granny WTF!!

[Tatterdemalion]

and then we'll get a decent manager with an established track record to lead our up and coming talented squad..... oh, hang on....

and so it goes on...

We've got to get it right sooner or later, even if we just get lucky.
A young manager with some new tricks would be nice, or a manager who has got the balls to insist that he is given more time with the team to train them with some decent tactics.

[baitman]

its not all doom and gloom. at least studge gets free subways for life

[Roboklopp]

Bodgerball blaming Stevie now.

[danperkins]

its not all doom and gloom. at least studge gets free subways for life

Chicken Teriyaki!!!!

[McDermotX]

Haha John Giles... would he kill his granny? Bobby Collins would kill his granny WTF!!

and his grandfather for good measure.

[Muddled]

What's Roy's post match chat?

[Venton]

We've got to get it right sooner or later, even if we just get lucky.
A young manager with some new tricks would be nice, or a manager who has got the balls to insist that he is given more time with the team to train them with some decent tactics.

I don't agree. Our style of football is exciting and works perfectly for the UK. But it's an international death knell. We've had a load of good managers working for us (I'm not including Roy who I think is not a great manager but undeserving of the vile cunthookery thrown at him on a daily basis by ****houses, he's obviously a decent man). The best players in the Premiership either learned their skills somewhere else or have gradually had them ground underfoot in the premiership. There are exceptions like Bale of course. I feel sorry for players like Barkley - hopefully a decent European team will snap him up quick so he can become a decent player before he slowly suffocates under the indignity of England fans booing him for playing exactly the way they've demanded of him for years.

I've watched decent players not fit into the England squad for a quarter of a century now and it makes my blood boil. I'd actually rather watch the premiership style of football most of the time but I'm not about to slate our players for coming up short on the international front because of it.

[Tatterdemalion]

devastated, didn't expect to lose blah blah blah. interviewer did ask him "did you get beaten by a world class striker?" I fully expected bodger to fall for it, but he didn't. Probably the only tactic he got right all night.

[danperkins]

and his grandfather for good measure.

I swear they have a few bottles of Whiskey under their desk. Last night Brady & Giles fighting with Ozzie Ardiles was hilarious too. Nobody knew what the **** Ozzie was saying

[Tatterdemalion]

I don't agree. Our style of football is exciting and works perfectly for the UK. But it's an international death knell. We've had a load of good managers working for us (I'm not including Roy who I think is not a great manager but undeserving of the vile cunthookery thrown at him on a daily basis by ****houses, he's obviously a decent man). The best players in the Premiership either learned their skills somewhere else or have gradually had them ground underfoot in the premiership. There are exceptions like Bale of course. I feel sorry for players like Barkley - hopefully a decent European team will snap him up quick so he can become a decent player before he slowly suffocates under the indignity of England fans booing him for playing exactly the way they've demanded of him for years.

I've watched decent players not fit into the England squad for a quarter of a century now and it makes my blood boil. I'd actually rather watch the premiership style of football most of the time but I'm not about to slate our players for coming up short on the international front because of it.

hmmm. not sure which bit you disagree with as I generally agree with you...

[Venton]

hmmm. not sure which bit you disagree with as I generally agree with you...

I'm disagreeing with it all. And belligerently.

I just don't think the problem is Hodgson. Or Capello. Or Eriksson. Or Maclaren. Or Redknapp... and so on. I think our league - which is where all England players play because they are not good enough to go anywhere else - puts an onus on speed over ability, drive over talent and impetus over patience.

That must have been a grim experience for Baines and Barkley. You just don't have a chance to show your talent playing for England.

[Kenneth]

If that were true then English teams would bomb in europe, but they don't. If England actually played like a top PL team they'd probably do very well.

[Venton]

If that were true then English teams would bomb in europe, but they don't. If England actually played like a top PL team they'd probably do very well.

And how many English players are in those teams?

[Kenneth]

And how many English players are in those teams?

You said it was the style of the league that is the issue.