Roy Hodgson Successor Thread

[Phoenix07]

The Redknapp/Rodgers team mentioned by Harry would've been immense.

You need someone with a glittering CV to command respect or a real tough nut who has exciting views on how England should play.

There's a few who spring to mind who won't take it i.e. Mourinho, Del Bosque, and there's someone like Klinsmann.

[Lecter]

Dont think there was really a better option there. Other than the Centre backs he chose, there was Jones. The Left back he went with the player who had a good season. Baines was no worse or better than Johnson over the two games.

Welbeck was the only one I probably wouldn't have picked, probably would have had Lallana in there ahead of him.

A group of us chatted last night before and after the game (probably about 10 of us, good cross section of the fan base) and every person agreed that the selection wasn't the problem. That team was the best of a bad bunch. Not much hiding that.

Disagree

Tactically it was a cluster****

I mean playing 4-4-2 is generally considered a no-no these days, even more so when you are considering playing Gerrard & Henderson in there

Then you have Rooney out wide, Well**** even on the pitch

The whole thing was down to team selection & tactics

I'm never really that arsed whether England do well or not, but my expectations this time round were very low. I actually think we have a decent bunch of players who given the right system and manager would do ok. They wouldnt win it but they could certainly have gotten out of the group

Roy being in charge made me believe they wouldnt get out of the group

[Lecter]

The players should have been good enough to get out of the group stages if you consider the talent we've actually got but as usual we pick an 11 and fit them into a formation rather than chose our formation and pick the best players to get the most out of it.

The two man midfield was a crazy idea as was accommodating Rooney and stifling our best player from the first game to do so.

Worst World Cup effort since 1958, take a bow Roy you've done it again

[Roboklopp]

Disagree

Tactically it was a cluster****

I mean playing 4-4-2 is generally considered a no-no these days, even more so when you are considering playing Gerrard & Henderson in there

Then you have Rooney out wide, Well**** even on the pitch

The whole thing was down to team selection & tactics

I'm never really that arsed whether England do well or not, but my expectations this time round were very low. I actually think we have a decent bunch of players who given the right system and manager would do ok. They wouldnt win it but they could certainly have gotten out of the group

Roy being in charge made me believe they wouldnt get out of the group

[Darkon]

Disagree

Tactically it was a cluster****

I mean playing 4-4-2 is generally considered a no-no these days, even more so when you are considering playing Gerrard & Henderson in there

Then you have Rooney out wide, Well**** even on the pitch

The whole thing was down to team selection & tactics

I'm never really that arsed whether England do well or not, but my expectations this time round were very low. I actually think we have a decent bunch of players who given the right system and manager would do ok. They wouldnt win it but they could certainly have gotten out of the group

Roy being in charge made me believe they wouldnt get out of the group

Overall I agree with that comment, it was tactically inept what was displayed. Not so much that it was 442 (it's just numbers anyways), as AM have shown this season it can be very succesfull if implemented properly. It was the player selection coupled with the philosophy of play that didn't make any sense. Especially with the CB's being so incompetent going forward, it was all to easy to close down the English play. Force the ball from the FB's in central and you only need to wait for them to make a semi-poor pass.

There just seems to be no overall plan for how they want to play, and the player selection in midfield and defence clearly showed that in this context.

England have a decent team, not a good one, but with the right mentality it could achieve a bit more even if the potential is not close to winning an international tournament.

In general it also has to be said that high expectations and limited potential is a bad combination from the outset...

[Alex]

Disagree

Tactically it was a cluster****

I mean playing 4-4-2 is generally considered a no-no these days, even more so when you are considering playing Gerrard & Henderson in there

Then you have Rooney out wide, Well**** even on the pitch

The whole thing was down to team selection & tactics

I'm never really that arsed whether England do well or not, but my expectations this time round were very low. I actually think we have a decent bunch of players who given the right system and manager would do ok. They wouldn't win it but they could certainly have gotten out of the group

Roy being in charge made me believe they wouldn't get out of the group

My point was more that the selection of players on the pitch was good enough to beat Uruguay. Which I think it was.

Rooney and Welbeck are examples of players people dont really like or rate on here, which is fine. But they played for the Champions last year. They have something about them.

Gerrard, Henderson, Johnson, Sterling and Sturridge all play for a side that finished 2nd and were regular starters. How he set them out was Roys problem.

The system and style of play were totally wrong. But the personnel were hardly a total **** up.

Ill give you Welbeck though, Lallana should be in over him all day.

If it was down to me, Id have replicated the Liverpool system as close as I possibly could. Rooney in the Suarez role. The players know the system inside out as was witnessed. But he didn't do that. Instead he just went for a way of getting all these players on the pitch.

I am yet to be shown a better current English centre back than the two who started also. They might not be up to the level of Ferdinand and Campbell from a few years back though.

Baines was the right choice, probably could have done with Cole off the bench to be able to have a safety net. But he had the better season.

[Alex]

Er sorry. I appear to have just posted the same thing as before, just with more words.

To be clear though, I think he got it wrong tactically, not with the selection. Apart from Welbz

[Fredo]

Think everyone agrees that with the current set of players, they should have been better than that.

How's Southgate faring with the Under 21's?

[red g]

Er sorry. I appear to have just posted the same thing as before, just with more words.

To be clear though, I think he got it wrong tactically, not with the selection. Apart from Welbz

I thought Wellbeck had his best game i haven ever seen him play in that game against Italy......He was almost above average.

I was severly tanked though.....But remember thinking he wasnt as utter ****e as i thought.

[Gibbo]

Had a decent first half but went downhill from there.

Playing him over Lallana and using the wrong formation was Roy's two biggsest mistakes.