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    Originally posted by gratziani View Post
    If we are gonna spend 38 million I would rather we went for Gotze / Reus ? lewandoski , pedigree signings who are worth the fees

    Reus Isa good shout. How much for Aubermeyang?
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      What a bunch of pricks Ukrainians are
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        Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
        Reus Isa good shout. How much for Aubermeyang?
        forgot about him as well , get rid of benteke for 18 million and wont look so bad

        Surely with Klopp as manager we have a great chance of signing these type of players from the German league.

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            Unfortunately I don't think this is going to happen. I know the media have reported 50m Euro as the asking price but what I heard and posted here early was that SD want £50m and are standing firm. I'm not sure even £38m would do it. I know some people are saying why don't we pay over the odds like we've done in the past but apparently Klopp doesn't want to pay over the odds. I have heard we have a back up if this falls through, just praying it's not Shane Long!
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              Originally posted by powerpack View Post
              Unfortunately I don't think this is going to happen. I know the media have reported 50m Euro as the asking price but what I heard and posted here early was that SD want £50m and are standing firm. I'm not sure even £38m would do it. I know some people are saying why don't we pay over the odds like we've done in the past but apparently Klopp doesn't want to pay over the odds. I have heard we have a back up if this falls through, just praying it's not Shane Long!
              The Shakhtar CEO has said "We will sell Alex Teixeira in summer. If you want him now then pay €70m" which is £50m
              CEO:"We will sell Alex Teixeira at the end of the season. We need good results in the Europa League and Ukrainian Championship"

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                up until a couple a weeks ago he wasnt on anyones radar and now all of a sudden hes our saviour and we must complete this deal ? come on FFS yes he's decent but is he what we really need ?

                he plays across the front line but his best position is as a 10 - he isnt a striker (although he can play there too) and we already have a very good number 10 in firmino. Im all for buying good players but is he really worth that sort of money ?

                Even if we had put £38m on the table they would have increased it to £50m. You just cant win with these guys. whenever you deal with any club from the old USSR you always get shafted.

                this is the exact same deal as the konoplyanka one whereby we cant get the deal sorted but when the player is available in the summer we dont want to know. If we were desperate for konoplyanka why didnt we pick him up on a free 6 months later ?

                If we dont get this guy (which we wont) then klopp will get someone else better in the summer - and for now we need to work on getting more from what we already have.
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                  Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                  yeah I know mate, Shaktar are notoriously difficult to deal with. It just galls me that we can be so careless with money time and time again on the wrong players. Blatantly over paying on average or above average players. Downing, Carroll, Hendo (I like lesser extent but still overpaid), Lallana, Balo, Lovren, Benteke etc when we could be careless with money on players that could potentially take us where we want to go.

                  It's a **** league alright but he hasn't looked out of place in the champs league. It's ridiculous money they want but sure with these gangsters it was always going to be silly money. He could potentially be a failure but IMO I would much rather gamble on him rather than those players mentioned above. He does look a very exciting and talented guy who could lift the club.

                  I just feel that we are scared ****less to spend big because of our previous flawed transfer policy & the reason why I feel we should just pay the money is because IMO 4th place is still there for us.. aswell as the cups. The league is all over the place, teams will continue to be inconsistent & I would love us to take a gamble on his talent to try get us to where we want to be.

                  But yeah there's no getting away from that ridiculous price
                  I dont get why you included Henderson in this and not Borini & Allen

                  We paid £12m rising to a possible £16m for Hendo, £15m for Allen and £11 or 12m for Borini
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                    Originally posted by el matador View Post
                    up until a couple a weeks ago he wasnt on anyones radar and now all of a sudden hes our saviour and we must complete this deal ? come on FFS yes he's decent but is he what we really need ?

                    he plays across the front line but his best position is as a 10 - he isnt a striker (although he can play there too) and we already have a very good number 10 in firmino. Im all for buying good players but is he really worth that sort of money ?

                    Even if we had put £38m on the table they would have increased it to £50m. You just cant win with these guys. whenever you deal with any club from the old USSR you always get shafted.

                    this is the exact same deal as the konoplyanka one whereby we cant get the deal sorted but when the player is available in the summer we dont want to know. If we were desperate for konoplyanka why didnt we pick him up on a free 6 months later ?

                    If we dont get this guy (which we wont) then klopp will get someone else better in the summer - and for now we need to work on getting more from what we already have.
                    Agree with a lot of this but again I keep coming back to paying £32m for Benteke and if you can pay that for him it almost justifies spending ridiculous amounts of money on other players
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                      I want our scouts to buy an Alex Teixeira BEFORE he becomes Alex Teixeira! We need to start unearthing these talents ourselves instead of pretending to be a big, rich club.

                      We did it with Torres, Sturridge and Suarez. I say forget Teixeira and move on to the next big striker before he's worth ridiculous fees. Ighalo?
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                        Originally posted by Bender View Post
                        The Shakhtar CEO has said "We will sell Alex Teixeira in summer. If you want him now then pay €70m" which is £50m
                        CEO:"We will sell Alex Teixeira at the end of the season. We need good results in the Europa League and Ukrainian Championship"
                        If its £50m now then chances are it wont be any lower come the summer (in fact it might be more)

                        Thats not saying we should pay it, but I dont think his price tag is dropping anytime soon
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                          Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                          I want our scouts to buy an Alex Teixeira BEFORE he becomes Alex Teixeira! We need to start unearthing these talents ourselves instead of pretending to be a big, rich club.

                          We did it with Torres, Sturridge and Suarez. I say forget Teixeira and move on to the next big striker before he's worth ridiculous fees. Ighalo?
                          None of those were bought as prospects

                          They were extremely talented players when we bought them and barring Sturridge they were record fees, Torres had maybe gone off the boil at Athletico, Sturridge wasnt getting a game and Suarez was voted the best player in Holland but was in disgrace for some reason
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                            I think we can safely say this deal is off, crazy money being touted for him.

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                              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                              None of those were bought as prospects

                              They were extremely talented players when we bought them and barring Sturridge they were record fees, Torres had maybe gone off the boil at Athletico, Sturridge wasnt getting a game and Suarez was voted the best player in Holland but was in disgrace for some reason
                              Suarez was a bit tainted after biting a player and that handball incident at the WC 2010, most knew then he was quality player though, he wasn't an unearthed gem.
                              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                                £50m. can get us Gotze or Reus plus someone else. I really like the look of Teixeira though but I can understand this being too much, I thought 38 was much but a risk worth taking.
                                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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