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  • McDermotX
    Paisley
    • Aug 2006
    • 35360

    #346
    Because it's an absolutely shocking dive by Son.

    It's about as unnatural as the challenge by Mina.

    Gives a way out for the officials and system when players continue to milk it.
    "I will make the boys feel your support"
    Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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    • McDermotX
      Paisley
      • Aug 2006
      • 35360

      #347
      Case in point......Richarlison's only interest was turning and going down.

      Contact equals fouls in players' minds.
      "I will make the boys feel your support"
      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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      • Maxiedge
        Shankly
        • Jun 2007
        • 7769

        #348
        Originally posted by McDermotX
        Because it's an absolutely shocking dive by Son.

        It's about as unnatural as the challenge by Mina.

        Gives a way out for the officials and system when players continue to milk it.
        No way a pen.


        Regarding VAR, from what I have seen this season, VAR is beneficial to the way we play with the high line. There have been offsides missed by linesmen and VAR would have chalked off the goals if they were scored. I also think we try and play football the right way so VAR will always help us more than it will hinder.

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        • ric.williams
          Fagan
          • Apr 2008
          • 1842

          #349
          ****in hell i know its everton but var has to give a handball there surely

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          • Norbs
            Big Girl's Blouse
            • Jun 2007
            • 42637

            #350
            Thought about it long enough

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            • ric.williams
              Fagan
              • Apr 2008
              • 1842

              #351
              Originally posted by Norbs
              Thought about it long enough
              amazing to watch the ball hit his hand, which is above his head, from about four different angles to see no pen given

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              • Norbs
                Big Girl's Blouse
                • Jun 2007
                • 42637

                #352
                Originally posted by ric.williams
                amazing to watch the ball hit his hand, which is above his head, from about four different angles to see no pen given
                It didn't deflect massively but his hand moved and virtually slapped his head

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                • Fredo
                  Not to be taken seriously
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 35173

                  #353
                  I don't understand why the referees don't go and look at the screen themselves when a decision is not clear cut, rather than dragging out the drama. The way this was used for the women's world cup in France should have been an example of how to implement VAR efficiently.
                  Are we winning?

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                  • Mr Pink
                    Dalglish
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 2361

                    #354
                    Does anyone else think it’s an issue that the var refs are actual refs too? I feel like they’re gonna be hesitant to overturn their colleagues decisions. A bit like how ya never see cops getting speeding tickets.

                    Think it would be a lot better if the ref went and looked at the video if the var tells him to. Lot less shame in saying actually you got it wrong at first, as opposed to someone else saying you’re incompetent.
                    I don't tip

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                    • EwarWoo
                      Paisley
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15979

                      #355
                      There shouldn't be any shame in either, its a fast moving game with lots going on, you can't always be in the right spot or looking the right way.

                      Problem is there's always been a culture of ******* in the black which has created a mentality that if they admit to being wrong it will only make the pelters worse.

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                      • Fosterbloke
                        Run the Jewels
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 39095

                        #356
                        Originally posted by Mr Pink
                        Does anyone else think it’s an issue that the var refs are actual refs too? I feel like they’re gonna be hesitant to overturn their colleagues decisions. A bit like how ya never see cops getting speeding tickets.

                        Think it would be a lot better if the ref went and looked at the video if the var tells him to. Lot less shame in saying actually you got it wrong at first, as opposed to someone else saying you’re incompetent.
                        That's a really good point. They should be independent, maybe even foreign referees?
                        Was mu

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                        • danperkins
                          Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                          • May 2010
                          • 50408

                          #357
                          Originally posted by Mr Pink
                          Does anyone else think it’s an issue that the var refs are actual refs too? I feel like they’re gonna be hesitant to overturn their colleagues decisions. A bit like how ya never see cops getting speeding tickets.

                          Think it would be a lot better if the ref went and looked at the video if the var tells him to. Lot less shame in saying actually you got it wrong at first, as opposed to someone else saying you’re incompetent.
                          absolutely

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                          • labourRed
                            Paisley
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 13453

                            #358
                            Originally posted by Mr Pink
                            Does anyone else think it’s an issue that the var refs are actual refs too? I feel like they’re gonna be hesitant to overturn their colleagues decisions. A bit like how ya never see cops getting speeding tickets.

                            Think it would be a lot better if the ref went and looked at the video if the var tells him to. Lot less shame in saying actually you got it wrong at first, as opposed to someone else saying you’re incompetent.
                            Yeah, I said the other day they should consider outsourcing it to somewhere completely impartial. Not that I don't think our refs aren't.

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                            • Exiled_red
                              Paisley
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 55269

                              #359
                              Originally posted by Fredo
                              I don't understand why the referees don't go and look at the screen themselves when a decision is not clear cut, rather than dragging out the drama. The way this was used for the women's world cup in France should have been an example of how to implement VAR efficiently.
                              I can only assume that it was supposed to save time in that they thought the VAR official could relay a decision in the time it would take to run across to the tunnel. But given most decisions seem to take 2-3mins that argument falls apart rather quickly
                              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              • Exiled_red
                                Paisley
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 55269

                                #360
                                Originally posted by Mr Pink
                                Does anyone else think it’s an issue that the var refs are actual refs too? I feel like they’re gonna be hesitant to overturn their colleagues decisions. A bit like how ya never see cops getting speeding tickets.

                                Think it would be a lot better if the ref went and looked at the video if the var tells him to. Lot less shame in saying actually you got it wrong at first, as opposed to someone else saying you’re incompetent.
                                Yes I think they want to back one another up and overturn as few decisions as possible, because next week their roles will be reversed.
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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