VAR thread

[Scratch]

...I stand by it. It's utter wank and killing the enjoyment of the game.

I dunno, I also think it adds a little something, as TV viewer, when watching teams you dislike and waiting for VAR to overrule (or not) a goal given against the under-dog...there's a sense of hope and expectation that the despair of seeing them score might be erased!

Of course, waiting for it to confirm if your team has scored has the opposite feeling, but swings and roundabouts etc.

[Charly]

Id take a ****e ref and two corrupt linesmen over var.

[McDermotX]

One thing that needs to be nipped in the bud, rapid, is the explanations to the players after every referral or nonreferral to VAR.
One can only assume it's because it's new, but players are so ****ing thick and have had years of having some ****ing neck, that it'll be a hard habit to drop. Refs need to be decisive.
At least half a dozen occasions in the City game the other day, the ref was wasting even more time giving explanations to the City players........add this to the time already spent and it'll get old, real fast.

[Scratch]

If it's gone to VAR and they're awaiting a decision, then the ref talking to the players about what is being referred upstairs isn't going to waste any time, as play won't restart until a decision is reached. Unless you're saying that even after the decision has been broadcast, the players and ref are still having a chinwag, which I've not noticed myself?

[McDermotX]

Aye.....on nearly half a dozen occasions after the decision had been announced in the stadium, the ref was delaying restart being badgered by players. Sterling in particular seemed unable to grasp the logic of it, Silva as well.

Like I said, hopefully it's an opening few week thing and it'll gradually go away, but considering it was happening during the WC (albeit VAR was in a closed loop), we'll have to wait and see.
I actually don't blame the players, it's a weak ref that would indulge them. Immediately after the decision is made......play on, any moaners can stand there talking to thin air as everyone else gets on with it.

[fah-q]

They're primed by Pep to waste as much time/break rhythms as possible so I wouldn't be surprised that this is some kind of tactic on their part.

[ChesterDave]

Has the potential to work, if not staffed by raging ****ing imbeciles

[Buzzo]

Has the potential to work, if not staffed by raging ****ing imbeciles

Hung the ref out to dry tonight. Was obviously the wrong decision from the ref, but those are the ones VAR are supposed to help with.

Suspicious lack of camera angles available.

[ChesterDave]

Yep. Can absolutely understand a ref getting that type of decision wrong in real time but with the benefit of replays and multiple angles unforgiveable for a video ref to be wrong

[Buzzo]

Decent twitter thread on how they are getting VAR wrong with offsides.

[ame]https://twitter.com/draper_rob/status/1161623811869093893[/ame]

[Alex]

VAR should work like cricket. Marginal calls are Refs choice. Clear mistakes are overturned by VAR.

Its not hard, and I guess the system will get there. Things wont be perfect in a day.

[ntto]

VAR should work like cricket. Marginal calls are Refs choice. Clear mistakes are overturned by VAR.

Its not hard, and I guess the system will get there. Things wont be perfect in a day.

cricket has the benefit of systems that predict the flight of the ball - so the decision typically is an absolute.

Where is falls down in football, two people will review a decision and you'll get two different decisions.

The handball in the first half that wasn't even reviewed, that was a pen last season all day long

[Exiled_red]

Decent twitter thread on how they are getting VAR wrong with offsides.

https://twitter.com/draper_rob/statu...23811869093893

I read the thread, and have heard the suggestion of feet only or any part of your body being level means that you are on, those suggestions are fine and may change things slightly, but they have no impact on how the law or VAR are used. You still need to draw a line between the last part of the defender and some part of the attacker, the few mm situation will still arise just involving a different body part.

For me the problem isn't the law it's the way VAR is used with it.

[Kenneth]

To identify obvious errors you don't need to draw a line anywhere. If you think you need to, then the decision wasn't an obvious error and you accept the decision of the lino. If someone was incorrectly given offside according to VAR, give them a freekick where they received the ball, but keep the instant decisions.

[Exiled_red]

To identify obvious errors you don't need to draw a line anywhere. If you think you need to, then the decision wasn't an obvious error and you accept the decision of the lino. If someone was incorrectly given offside according to VAR, give them a freekick where they received the ball, but keep the instant decisions.

That's what I have been saying for ages