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  • The_weatherman
    Smug
    • Nov 2006
    • 14177

    #241
    Originally posted by McDermotX
    Great system.


    Love it.
    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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    • Exiled_red
      Paisley
      • Nov 2007
      • 55273

      #242
      Not strictly a VAR incident, but with the VAR rules as they are the linesmen have to keep their flags down, the wrong call by the officials like the TAA one-two need to be left. It's pointless having the system for incidents that it gets right if the officials are still getting some wrong like that which can't be reviewed.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      • BobTheCharmer
        Pantomime Villain
        • Jul 2006
        • 19183

        #243
        Goals are scored and ruled out.

        Goals aren't scored as the linesman wrongly flags, not over turned.

        Stupid.
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        • frank the tank
          Paisley
          • Mar 2008
          • 12888

          #244
          Big time stupid.

          Also, there will be a high profile case where an attacker will be offside, the lino will keep their flag down, they won't score but will get a corner that shouldn't be given, and then they will score from the corner that shouldn't have been given in the first place.

          Stupid system alright

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          • McDermotX
            Paisley
            • Aug 2006
            • 35360

            #245
            Excellent day for VAR.

            Just don't know how they can top it now.
            "I will make the boys feel your support"
            Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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            • McDermotX
              Paisley
              • Aug 2006
              • 35360

              #246
              Originally posted by McDermotX
              Excellent day for VAR.

              Just don't know how they can top it now.
              Well. They somehow managed it.
              "I will make the boys feel your support"
              Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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              • Kenneth
                Pond Scum
                • May 2007
                • 65637

                #247
                Both were correct. Strikers waiting for defenders and falling down is one of the most annoying things in the game. Divok was trailing his right leg hoping for it. And mane trapped the ball between knee and hand.
                Last edited by Kenneth; 20-10-19, 05:41 PM.
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                • McDermotX
                  Paisley
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 35360

                  #248
                  Agreed. Except the first one.
                  "I will make the boys feel your support"
                  Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                  • Buzzo
                    Donald Buzzworth
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 67435

                    #249
                    So far it is only used for ball hair handballs and offsides which nobody would have given a **** about if they weren't picked up. No real howlers and seems to be avoided on the one area it could make a difference. Pens.

                    It's not working.

                    Klopp not convinced.


                    "They scored a goal which shows all the problems with VAR. Mr Atkinson let the game run I'm sure because there is VAR. For me it was a clear foul. It's a general problem. VAR looks and says 'you decided like this'. But it was a foul. Then we scored a goal that was disallowed. Pretty much everything went against us but we still didn't lose so that is OK.
                    Modifying post.

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                    • Chris
                      Typing Tourettes is a thing
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 20697

                      #250
                      It's ****ing awful and just used to give even more favours to vermin like them. Sickening. Naively thought at first it'd solve the problems of us getting screwed at Old Trafford etc but it's just made it more likely, that was absolutely scandalous.

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                      • Norbs
                        Big Girl's Blouse
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 42637

                        #251
                        I think Klopp misses the point there. In isolation the challenge on Origi is a foul so play should've stopped. Letting play continue had nothing to do with the ref waiting for VAR to step in

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                        • Exiled_red
                          Paisley
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 55273

                          #252
                          There is a massive problem here with VAR for me.

                          If you ask anyone it to consider the foul in isolation everyone will say that it's a foul, it's not the worst foul in the world and Origi maybe makes the most of it, but it's still a foul. Under what circumstances will VAR disallow a goal for a foul in the build up? This is where I feel we need someone to explain why that wasn't overturned. Was it not 'enough' of a foul (if this is the case where is the line?), does the VAR official think that it isn't a foul? Was the foul too far back in the build up? or What?
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          • Kenneth
                            Pond Scum
                            • May 2007
                            • 65637

                            #253
                            I had 5 live commentary and they suggested that they had been told that the VAR didn't think the decision to play on was an error, rather than it being an issue with when and where it happened in relation to the goal.

                            But they are fair questions. Can a potential free kick 80+ yards from goal really be considered part of the goal for the purposes of VAR? If they're going to make a call on such a foul, why not do it for all of them? A free kick to us in that position could be game changing so why not review it irrespective of the goal? There is so much that doesn't make sense and is overly convoluted.
                            Last edited by Kenneth; 20-10-19, 07:16 PM.
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                            • Norbs
                              Big Girl's Blouse
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 42637

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Exiled_red
                              There is a massive problem here with VAR for me.

                              If you ask anyone it to consider the foul in isolation everyone will say that it's a foul, it's not the worst foul in the world and Origi maybe makes the most of it, but it's still a foul. Under what circumstances will VAR disallow a goal for a foul in the build up? This is where I feel we need someone to explain why that wasn't overturned. Was it not 'enough' of a foul (if this is the case where is the line?), does the VAR official think that it isn't a foul? Was the foul too far back in the build up? or What?
                              Rubbish isn't it. Just blow the whistle ffs

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                              • Norbs
                                Big Girl's Blouse
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 42637

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Kenneth
                                I had 5 live commentary and they suggested that they had been told that the VAR didn't think the decision to play on was an error, rather than it being an issue with when and where it happened in relation to the goal.
                                Why would they be given the chance to play on if the foul was against us?

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