VAR thread

[Buzzo]

3 shockers today.

[Leyton388]

When it comes to offside these off by a toe nail decisions need to be ****ed off and just left to the on field officials. The linesman is in line with play and it should be left to him to make the decision and VAR should only be getting involved if it is as clear as day the player is off and the lineman has missed it.

[Fosterbloke]

Gnat's dick decisions are tedious and are killing the game.

[Harv]

They should just **** this measure from the armpit **** off. It's laughable and is pure guesswork with tv cameras and perspective distorting things. Measure from the players feet. Thats were they are in actual contact with the pitch and therefore its the easiest part to measure. Even these imbeciles couldn't **** that up. In fact when you look at the feet you don't even need to draw the line most of the time (unless they're on opposite sides of the pitch)

Pukki was onside, how anyone can claim he wasn't is beyond me. Its an absolute joke.

[spud_gun]

They should just **** this measure from the armpit **** off. It's laughable and is pure guesswork with tv cameras and perspective distorting things. Measure from the players feet. Thats were they are in actual contact with the pitch and therefore its the easiest part to measure. Even these imbeciles couldn't **** that up. In fact when you look at the feet you don't even need to draw the line most of the time (unless they're on opposite sides of the pitch)

Pukki was onside, how anyone can claim he wasn't is beyond me. Its an absolute joke.

The problem is that was how offsides were agreed to be adjudged at the begining of the season.

You can't now change the rules half way through the seasons.

I suspect we'll see fairly dramatic changes in the summer.

What I'm more surprised is that they're relying on humans to make offsides that are coming down to millimetres

Why hasn't a Hawkeye type system being implemented ot make these judgement calls

[S-RED]

They should just **** this measure from the armpit **** off. It's laughable and is pure guesswork with tv cameras and perspective distorting things. Measure from the players feet. Thats were they are in actual contact with the pitch and therefore its the easiest part to measure. Even these imbeciles couldn't **** that up. In fact when you look at the feet you don't even need to draw the line most of the time (unless they're on opposite sides of the pitch)

Pukki was onside, how anyone can claim he wasn't is beyond me. Its an absolute joke.

Whilst i totally agree with this, the media have been told that as you can score with any part of your body, the offside rule needs to match this criteria........ pure stupidity & madness, but thats the FA/Prem stance on it.

[ChesterDave]

Liverpool goal definitely should have stood
Wolves offside at the point the freeze frame was shown.

Problem is we now have technology the laws are not for for purpose. We can slow the footage down to what, 60fps? What point is the ball 'played'? Is it the frame at which the bodily contact with the ball first occurs, is it the first frame at which the contact between player and ball ceases? At walking pace of 4 mph you would cover 2.9 cm in a single frame if 60 fps. That's a hell of a distance if the foot and ball are in contact for 5 frames and if the player is running its even more

[dom9]

Liverpool goal definitely should have stood
Wolves offside at the point the freeze frame was shown.

Problem is we now have technology the laws are not for for purpose. We can slow the footage down to what, 60fps? What point is the ball 'played'? Is it the frame at which the bodily contact with the ball first occurs, is it the first frame at which the contact between player and ball ceases? At walking pace of 4 mph you would cover 2.9 cm in a single frame if 60 fps. That's a hell of a distance if the foot and ball are in contact for 5 frames and if the player is running its even more

[destinydude]

The problem with our goal is that the referee blew his whistle before the ball hit the net and players play to the whistle

[Mark79]

The problem with our goal is that the referee blew his whistle before the ball hit the net and players play to the whistle

Whistle was after the ball crossed the line. Otherwise VAR couldn’t have intervened.

[Buzzo]

I’ve not seen it but apparently (ManchestVAR) City had a VAR go in their favour today with the ref getting involved in play.

[baitman]

Can someone explain this please.
If a team is attacking and one of their players is well offside on the other side of the pitch away from the play its not considered offside, but a defender on the other side of the pitch is deemed to be playing an attacker onside.

With all these micro marginal decisions from var doesnt these other players across the pitch have any bearing.
Do they still have 'phase of play' as it can be very ambiguous when referring back to var.

[Norbs]

Can someone explain this please.
If a team is attacking and one of their players is well offside on the other side of the pitch away from the play its not considered offside, but a defender on the other side of the pitch is deemed to be playing an attacker onside.

With all these micro marginal decisions from var doesnt these other players across the pitch have any bearing.
Do they still have 'phase of play' as it can be very ambiguous when referring back to var.

Yep, that's always been a ridiculous rule. Wasnt the case until recent years though

[Norbs]

VAR OVERTURNS - DECISIONS FOR - not including today
LFC should be further ahead.

Brighton 7
Leicester City 5
Southampton 4
Tottenham 4
Burnley
Chelsea 3
Palace 3
Man City 3
Man United 3
West Ham 3
Bournemouth 2
Arsenal 2
Liverpool 2
Watford 2
Aston Villa 1
Everton 1
Newcastle 1
Norwich City 1

[baitman]

Yep, that's always been a ridiculous rule. Wasnt the case until recent years though

For the wolves goal that was fractionally offside there was another wolves player who was about 5 yards offside wh was directly in front of our goal.
The player might not have had the ball passed to him but obviously the goalie is watching him and has to alter his position and actions as he must consider this player a potential threat.

We need to get back to "offside is offside" no matter what.