VAR thread

[dom9]

Ok, fair enough.

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[dom9]

I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR though.

The referee's decision has always been final until now.

The assistant referees have always been just that. Providing guidance, but not a final decision.

The VARs (Video Assistant Referees) should also be used in same manner. To provide guidance, and not to make the final decision.

In fact, the opposite is happening. I think referees absolutely should consult the monitor and make the call themselves. To not do that undermines them.

[Buzzo]

I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR

Dom engages spineless mode.

[Norbs]

So is it the flag or the whistle?

[dom9]

So is it the flag or the whistle?

Thistle

[Exiled_red]

I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR though.

The referee's decision has always been final until now.

The assistant referees have always been just that. Providing guidance, but not a final decision.

The VARs (Video Assistant Referees) should also be used in same manner. To provide guidance, and not to make the final decision.

In fact, the opposite is happening. I think referees absolutely should consult the monitor and make the call themselves. To not do that undermines them.

Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.

Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?

[dom9]

Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.



Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?

Right, but if they're taking the VAR decision as read each time without question, then it's a bit academic isn't it?

[labourRed]

Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.

Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?

No. Not in The PL. The ref can be overruled by VAR. Not like in the world cup where they advise the ref to review monitors. That's the genesis of the clear and obvious implementation of VAR.

The ref makes the VAR symbol under the advice that they are reviewing something.

[labourRed]

Getting back to the lineman's role without going around in circles. I get why people think they are pointless now but they aren't. They still signal for various decisions, ie throw ins (and direction), corners, fouls etc. Its why the correct term is assistant referee. But they can always be overruled on any decision.

They'll always exist. The same can't be said for those pointless penalty refs that were trailed a few years back.

Quite why Riley thinks it's a good idea to flag before the ball ends up dead I don't know. Its stupid and I reckon this season will be the last we see of it.

[baitman]

Have they now binned this farcical 1st and 2nd stage of play bollocks?
I have seen recent offsides given when the 'offending' player is miles away from the action and out on the wing, which really makes no sense either.

[Irishnev]

This is what I thought we would be getting.....

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[Buzzo]

The Rugby way. Everything is 100% transparent. Even if you don’t agree, at least you know what the ref is thinking.

We’d have had VAR implemented perfectly between us Nev.

[Irishnev]

The Rugby way. Everything is 100% transparent. Even if you don’t agree, at least you know what the ref is thinking.

We’d have had VAR implemented perfectly between us Nev.

a balance between eternal optimism and irrational pessimism would get the right results

[Buzzo]

a balance between eternal optimism and irrational pessimism would get the right results

“This is going to be amazing”

“I don’t think this is going to work”

We’d get there in the end.

[spud_gun]

'do you want me to come across and sell it's

:Haha:

Has there been any follow up regarding Manes offside goal on Saturday?

Didn't see any angle where he appeared to be conclusively offisde.