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    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
    Ok, fair enough.
    hew:

    Oh I don't know.

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      I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR though.

      The referee's decision has always been final until now.

      The assistant referees have always been just that. Providing guidance, but not a final decision.

      The VARs (Video Assistant Referees) should also be used in same manner. To provide guidance, and not to make the final decision.

      In fact, the opposite is happening. I think referees absolutely should consult the monitor and make the call themselves. To not do that undermines them.
      Oh I don't know.

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        Originally posted by dom9 View Post
        I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR
        Dom engages spineless mode.

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          So is it the flag or the whistle?

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            Originally posted by Norbs View Post
            So is it the flag or the whistle?
            Thistle
            Oh I don't know.

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              Originally posted by dom9 View Post
              I think Kenneth does allude to a good point iro the Premier League's application of VAR though.

              The referee's decision has always been final until now.

              The assistant referees have always been just that. Providing guidance, but not a final decision.

              The VARs (Video Assistant Referees) should also be used in same manner. To provide guidance, and not to make the final decision.

              In fact, the opposite is happening. I think referees absolutely should consult the monitor and make the call themselves. To not do that undermines them.
              Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.

              Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.



                Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?
                Right, but if they're taking the VAR decision as read each time without question, then it's a bit academic isn't it?
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                  Technically isn't it still the referee making the decision? A goal/decision isn't made until the referee makes the VAR symbol and awards the goal/decision.

                  Aren't they just taking 'advice' from VAR?
                  No. Not in The PL. The ref can be overruled by VAR. Not like in the world cup where they advise the ref to review monitors. That's the genesis of the clear and obvious implementation of VAR.

                  The ref makes the VAR symbol under the advice that they are reviewing something.

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                    Getting back to the lineman's role without going around in circles. I get why people think they are pointless now but they aren't. They still signal for various decisions, ie throw ins (and direction), corners, fouls etc. Its why the correct term is assistant referee. But they can always be overruled on any decision.

                    They'll always exist. The same can't be said for those pointless penalty refs that were trailed a few years back.

                    Quite why Riley thinks it's a good idea to flag before the ball ends up dead I don't know. Its stupid and I reckon this season will be the last we see of it.

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                      Have they now binned this farcical 1st and 2nd stage of play bollocks?
                      I have seen recent offsides given when the 'offending' player is miles away from the action and out on the wing, which really makes no sense either.
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        This is what I thought we would be getting.....

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                          The Rugby way. Everything is 100% transparent. Even if you don’t agree, at least you know what the ref is thinking.

                          We’d have had VAR implemented perfectly between us Nev.
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                            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


                            The Rugby way. Everything is 100% transparent. Even if you don’t agree, at least you know what the ref is thinking.

                            We’d have had VAR implemented perfectly between us Nev.
                            a balance between eternal optimism and irrational pessimism would get the right results

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                              Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                              a balance between eternal optimism and irrational pessimism would get the right results


                              “This is going to be amazing”

                              “I don’t think this is going to work”

                              We’d get there in the end.
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                                'do you want me to come across and sell it's

                                :Haha:

                                Has there been any follow up regarding Manes offside goal on Saturday?

                                Didn't see any angle where he appeared to be conclusively offisde.

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