VAR thread

[danperkins]

Yeah he's a horrible little prick but don't think he meant that, should be given as a foul though. But yes he most certainly gets special treatment.

[Norbs]

I hate Messi, he's a prick of the highest order - but thats not a red. He's got nowhere else to put his foot.
He's running full pelt and stretching to keep the ball in, you cant just suddenly change your body mechanics because a defender has decided to slide in and wrap his legs around. This is all happening in a split second.

Be interesting to see the next 10 seconds to see how he reacted afterwards

[Buzzo]

Remember worrying about VAR?

Some changes afoot to the rules ‘next season’.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-introduce-three-rule-21850898

[ChesterDave]

I dream of the day they decide that 'shielding' the ball is no longer to be permitted. Make players actually play the ball instead of wilfully impeding the opponent

[Exiled_red]

So the first season with VAR is finished what are people's views of it?

For me I like the idea of it but I still think that the implemeof it has been bad. I can understand why the rules have been made the way that they have but they are making the game messy.

The need for 'clear and obvious' error means that almost nothing has changed, it just highlights the referee's 'biases' in awarding penalties. The only way that a penalty decision is overturned is if there is no contact, so as long as the attacker drags his leg the decision stands. Something needs to be done about this. Personally I think the referee should be encouraged to review decisions on the monitor and he can decide whether or not it should be a pen (without the clear and obvious guidance).

The offsides, I find this a particularly challenging one, I feel that the offside rule is not compatible with VAR. Offside seems to be exempt from the clear and obvious criteria used everywhere else in VAR. To be honest I don't have a problem so much with it's use here if it has the necessary accuracy and precision required to get these mm calls right, and to be honest I am not sure that it does.

Clearly it has some uses where it works really well such as deciding whether a foul was inside or outside the area.

[Kenneth]

It's been a **** show.

The most obvious thing about VAR is that someone looking at replays has a much clearer view of what happened. Having a system where that person, whoever it is, doesn't have complete authority to make a decision is having a broken system.

Offsides I'm comfortable with. There was controversy as people got used to it, but it's fine imo. Even at the margins where system inaccuracy becomes an issue, it's probably still more accurate than a human in real time.

Away from VAR, the rule about accidental handballs ruling out goals needs to go, there is zero benefit to it and explicitly punishing trivial accidents is illogical and unfair.

[Irishnev]

Clear and Obvious needs to **** off....... VAR needs to correct mistakes made by the ref on the pitch regardless of causing any ‘embarrassment’ for them

[S-RED]

They shouldn't have refs in the VAR room, it needs to be ex-players or a new team of people who can interpret the rules, without having any history or allegiance to the on field ref.

The clear & obvious thing is a total cop out & it 'unfortunately' is helping a few big teams (not us obviously, as Salah will never get another penalty again, unless he is snapped in half).

there have been big winners, but also big losers with controversial VAR decisions, i think we have been stitched up a bit, but certainly villa & Bournemouth have suffered worse; with Burnley & palace also copping a few ****e decisions

[cannotmakeit]

Refs have to be going to the monitors themselves and relook at incidents.

[Alex]

That will be happening in the league from next season. More on field decisions with the ref looking at it.

[Scratch]

Every ground to have a big screen, ref to view the big screen without leaving the pitch, along with all the supporters at the ground, and players too....then make your decision ref, there'll be no cop-outs then, cos we can all see it! It'll never happen, but it should.

[S-RED]

Every ground to have a big screen, ref to view the big screen without leaving the pitch, along with all the supporters at the ground, and players too....then make your decision ref, there'll be no cop-outs then, cos we can all see it! It'll never happen, but it should.

can you imagine that, would be amazing if they did that. Or have the managers & ref review each VAR decision.... can you imagine the carnage on the touchline

[Kenneth]

Can't they strap a movie device to their arm, like runners do?

[Fivex]

Sorry but lmao - a 'movie device'?

[Kenneth]

Was supposed to be mobile, I must have misspelt it so badly for that autocorrect.