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    Its not black and white though. It has been discussed to death that the frame rate of the cameras are insufficient to process such precise margins.

    And the decisions should only be overturned if it is clear and obvious and from that image it isn't clearly offside
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      Jesus christ, I hope there's an inquest for Cairney being a vole diver. No idea how that is a 'clear and obvious' error. They just going for more goals and drama I feel. Nothing to do with the right decision.

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        Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
        Its not black and white though. It has been discussed to death that the frame rate of the cameras are insufficient to process such precise margins.

        And the decisions should only be overturned if it is clear and obvious and from that image it isn't clearly offside
        The may well be the case about the frame rates, but that’s not taken into account. The bottom line with VAR is it literally draws a line between on or off. Common sense on how they’re not actually gaining any advantage by having their shoulder or T-shirt line 2mm ahead of the defender doesn’t come in to it.
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          Originally posted by Zapater View Post
          Jesus christ, I hope there's an inquest for Cairney being a vole diver. No idea how that is a 'clear and obvious' error. They just going for more goals and drama I feel. Nothing to do with the right decision.
          I thought it was a definite pen.

          Lookman's penalty was absolutely unbelievable. Unbelievable!
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            Oh. Just watching MOTD and they don't even have the image from the other side of the pitch and they still rule it out?
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              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              I thought it was a definite pen.

              Lookman's penalty was absolutely unbelievable. Unbelievable!
              I hope he got an absolute bollocking for that ****e

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                The VAR rules regarding top of sleeve have to change. It was fine last season when it was start of shoulder. They got it wrong with the handball rule start of season and they need to come out and say they have got this wrong. That Bamford goal is 100% onside in the game we have grown up with and loved.

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                  The manager and players should refuse to play until that **** is sorted out.

                  We should have made a bigger stand with the Henderson goal at Everton.

                  All teams should call the officials out for what they are. ****ing idiots. Or at least direct the anger at the referees chief.
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                    46 seconds in on the arse game & villa have one disallowed by VAR; another stupid decision

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                      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                      The manager and players should refuse to play until that **** is sorted out.

                      We should have made a bigger stand with the Henderson goal at Everton.

                      All teams should call the officials out for what they are. ****ing idiots. Or at least direct the anger at the referees chief.
                      It is a bit of a joke now alright....

                      and i think you might be right about what needs to happen. I don't think that they won't play, but definitely needs the LMA and the PFA to kick off about this.

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                        Originally posted by S-RED View Post
                        46 seconds in on the arse game & villa have one disallowed by VAR; another stupid decision
                        I hate VAR. Rule of thumb: Everything's a pen and nothings a goal. Only good thing about that is that Barkley ****ed it up.

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                          haha yes regarding barkley.

                          Did you spot that the VAR screen didn't work so Atkinson had to watch it on a laptop screen.........

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                            VAR is a ****ing joke. Yes, it's supposedly 'black and white' for offside but there are still pixels of greyness depending on who stopped the play, who drew a ****ing straight line or an angled one, where a shirt sleeve starts and what colour boot the attacker is wearing. Any if it's viewed in real-time, half-speed or slow-mo - all will give you a different result. Then, to add insult to injury, the complete ****wits in the VAR office ignore stuff the ref didn't see... but overrule stuff he does see and has a different take on it... even when it's micro-marginal degrees of difference. It's an absolute farce and should be canned. If it can't be 100% fully automated, it's still interpretation and so exactly as it was pre-VAR but with a few extra angles. Utter ****e.

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                              VAR has been an absolute disaster. The only thing it has highlighted which we already knew, is just how poor the standard of officiating in the premier league is. Ref's dropping a massive bollock in nearly every game and too arrogant to correct themselves.

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                                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                                VAR has been an absolute disaster. The only thing it has highlighted which we already knew, is just how poor the standard of officiating in the premier league is. Ref's dropping a massive bollock in nearly every game and too arrogant to correct themselves.
                                100% agree on the ref's attitude to correcting their errors. They can't admit their mistakes, which is screwing up the process.

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