Originally posted by Norbs
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From the Sheffield Fulham game.
What the ****?
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Where are we with ruling on VAR changing decisions or officials changing their decision on looking at the pitchside monitor? Is it still the clear and obvious error stuff, because I can't keep up anymore.
This feels like the clear and obvious error BS the referee gave the penalty on the pitch, if you go with the clear and obvious rule then realistically the only way that pen decision is overturned is if there is no contact or there is some other infringement (eg offside). This is the only way I can see that the decision wasn't changed, because its a stupid rule. The referee should be able to look at the monitor and have free rein to decide if it is a pen or not with no bias from the decision he initially made on the pitch, not having the ability to do so is a problem with VAR. If the referee did have free rein then then the lack of time spent at the monitor represents either a problem with the official being **** or a lack of communication about the need to see other angles.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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To have two penalty decisions like that less than 3 hours apart is baffling. Its hard to argue with the accusation they are making it up with such contrasting decisions.Football without Origi is nothingComment
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We all would. And it would be a great step in the direction of giving fans faith in the system and improving transparency.Originally posted by Exiled_red View PostFootball without Origi is nothingComment
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Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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A couple more thoughts about the decision yesterday, as the penalty was given by the on field official this doesn't count as one of the long list of VAR decisions that have gone against us.
The other thing is VAR was supposed to be removing the uncertainty from controversial decisions if anything it is amplifying them, previously you would just say the referee has made a mistake, not be happy about it but move on. Every week now we are talking about poor VAR decisions, offsides that don't look right, fouls that aren't referred to it, soft pens that are awarded despite minimal contact or just poor use of the system in some form. It feels more like we concentrate on these than ever.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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It's really hard to stay interested in football at the moment but there's **** all else to be inspired by so we're stuck with it
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That’s kinda it innit? We are fish in a barrel over lockdown.Originally posted by Norbs View PostIt's really hard to stay interested in football at the moment but there's **** all else to be inspired by so we're stuck with it3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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I am really curious to know what the clubs are doing about VAR do they have access to the VAR tapes and angles etc because I would be running my own analysis of every VAR decision that we are involved in and asking questions about any that are controversial that we don't agree with or we believe are too ambiguous. Are clubs doing this behind the scenes?
If we don't have access to it I would be pushing for it, if the system is robust then reanalysis won't change any of the factual decisions such as offside, and if it does there are serious problems. Likewise the subjective decisions require comparisons across games to ensure that the system is being used consistently. If we are sticking with VAR then we need to use it to ensure consistency of refereeing otherwise it just makes the game more unfair and more of a lottery than without it.
For me there is a big issue around what is called on the pitch and what isn't IMO there are alot of no calls for penalties that aren't given on the pitch and VAR supposedly takes a quick look and confirms the no call but equivalent incidents that are called as pens on the pitch are reviewed by VAR and usually confirmed as pens, clearly there is a massive inconsistency here. The same incident should have the same outcome regardless of how it was called on the pitch, there is a massive confirmation bias in these decisions and that needs to be removed so that games are refereed consistently.Last edited by Exiled_red; 21-02-21, 10:38 AM.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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The simple fact is that all the time a dinosaur (+corrupt) **** like riley is head of the PGMOL, the system will be ****ed, awful & irrational with its decision making & it will continue until he is removed.
Forget Webb, without doubt Riley was the most inept & corrupt refi have seen in 40 years of watching football.Comment
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Howard Webb, for those that do not know/remember, was/is a police officer with South Yorkshire Police.Football without Origi is nothingComment
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I don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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