VAR thread

[Norbs]

As an organised plan across the organisation, or with individual refs?

Both

[ChesterDave]

Both

Oh. As for individual refs I think you'd have to be stark raving mad not to think some have been bribed. We've seen it across other sports. We've seen it across other leagues in football so to think the Premier League is immune to the reach of than criminality is baffling to me.

[baitman]

Oh. As for individual refs I think you'd have to be stark raving mad not to think some have been bribed. We've seen it across other sports. We've seen it across other leagues in football so to think the Premier League is immune to the reach of than criminality is baffling to me.

Christmas cards with "gift vouchers" from DBF

[Exiled_red]

I guess it depends what you mean by corruption. I don’t think anyone can seriously think that there’s a plan to benefit one team over another via referees, but the relevant authorities (including the PGMOL) releasing bull**** statements or changing guidance on the fly to cover up errors by refs and VARs is happening, and I’d say that might well fall under the definition of corruption.

This for me is a grey area, I agree that coming out with statements on individual cases where the ref has clearly got it wrong is dodgy. Also changing the rules part way though a season is dodgy and shouldn't be happening. But the 'Monday morning meeting saying we are giving too many pens for minimal contact is adapting guidance and trying to get consistency I think is OK. The problem with it is then it depends on the lucky of the fixture list or if you are the poor sods whose high profile mistake causes change in guidance, where everyone else benefits from it but you have already dropped those points...

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Remember when Mascherano was the one and only person sent off as part of the "respect" campaign for telling the ref to **** off.

[baitman]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59736316

Liverpool's Andy Robertson is 'lucky to be walking' - Mark Clattenburg

Former Premier League referee Mark Clattenburg has criticised the officiating in Tottenham's draw with Liverpool on Sunday, saying Andy Robertson is "lucky to be walking".

The left-back was on the end of a strong studs-up tackle from Harry Kane.

Referee Paul Tierney only gave a yellow card and Robertson was later shown a straight red for a foul on Emerson Royal that was reviewed by VAR.

"I think Kane's tackle's worse than Robertson's," said Clattenburg.

BBC Sport were told one of the mitigating factors behind the decision not to dismiss Kane for his first-half challenge was the fact Robertson lifted his standing leg out of the way of the Spurs captain's tackle.

"To hear that Robertson has to have his leg planted alarms me, because if he does that he's not walking this Christmas," Clattenburg told the Monday Night Club on BBC Radio 5 Live.

"If you don't believe this is a clear and obvious error about Kane, you're not doing your job correctly.

"I think we, as referees, are sometimes guilty of knowing the laws of the game but we don't understand the game.

"VAR cannot get this wrong. Referees can, because they have a split second. VAR have all the angles, he's got all the slow-motion, he can see the point of contact.

"If they are saying that his (Robertson's) leg has to be planted, which is a new one to me, if the leg was high, the studs were showing, it's reckless, he's lunged. For me, he's endangered the safety of the opponent.

"Robbo is lucky today that he's still walking. We should understand footballers more because he's not going to leave his leg there, why should he? He's not going to want his leg broken and his career put in doubt."

[RedReet]

Remember when Mascherano was the one and only person sent off as part of the "respect" campaign for telling the ref to **** off.

Let's not forget this either...

[ame]https://twitter.com/ItsEronG/status/940002034580905984[/ame]


[ame]https://twitter.com/ynwaMattH/status/1472851873501696000[/ame]

[RedReet]

Also, didn't the ref have a shocker during a 2-2 with Spurs a few years ago, giving two pate pens plus a few other dodgy decisions?

[RedReet]

Also, didn't the ref have a shocker during a 2-2 with Spurs a few years ago, giving two pate pens plus a few other dodgy decisions?

Had to refresh my memory.

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11843652/pl-vault-liverpool-2-2-tottenham-2018

Kane offside, then dives for first pen. Lamela then jumps into Virg, who is pulling out of the challenge, to get the 2nd.

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The famous Jon Moss, i don't know if he touched him; **** it i will give the penalty anyway

[RedReet]

The famous Jon Moss, i don't know if he touched him; **** it i will give the penalty anyway

Atkinson as 4th official, what a team. No wonder Klopp got sent off.

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Rules being made up off the cuff again in Leeds game?? How is Bowen not interfering in that goal???

Shambles

[Kenneth]

Bizarre

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VAR ............Maximin taken out in box, replays are clear as you like - No pen. Seriously sack it off until the VAR officials are willing to overturn their mates on field decision

[S-RED]

Its a stonewall pen