VAR thread

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Are the cameras refresh rate good enough to be accurate to that level ? I very much doubt it and using that still image as the example I'm not convinced it is offside anyway!

It's ruined the game but there's too much money involved.

I have said this before but I am not convinced the technology is good enough to make these really tight calls accurately there are so many things that need to be spot on, different cameras sync'd to the same clock, perspective of each camera determined accurately the correct frame being identified by the officials for when the ball was played, the lines being drawn in the right place (and at the right angle) to sub cm accuracy

[Norbs]

Funniest thing about VAR is that it doesn't even exist below the top tier so there's a million errors going unnoticed and the world hasn't collapsed. Should've left it to offside only

[Mr Pink]

Are the cameras refresh rate good enough to be accurate to that level ? I very much doubt it and using that still image as the example I'm not convinced it is offside anyway!

It's ruined the game but there's too much money involved.

I was thinking this too, the other day- looking at the var cameras where they’re moving between frames, it looks like 24/30 frames per second. Even the iPhone is capable of doing 60 frames per second. They should need to show that it’s offside in 2 consecutive frames- before/after the ball is kicked.

Even if they were using high speed cameras, it’s still a manual process to select the exact frame where the ball is kicked. When a player kicks a ball, his foot is prob in contact with the ball for 2/3 frames. When do they count that it would be offside- at the point where the foot first makes contact with the ball or at the point that the ball is no longer in contact with the foot?

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There was this piece from a newspaper article (I think) a while back

https://www.reddit.com/r/football/comments/cs16vq/why_var_can_never_be_definitive/

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[Buzzo]

I was thinking this too, the other day- looking at the var cameras where they’re moving between frames, it looks like 24/30 frames per second. Even the iPhone is capable of doing 60 frames per second. They should need to show that it’s offside in 2 consecutive frames- before/after the ball is kicked.

Even if they were using high speed cameras, it’s still a manual process to select the exact frame where the ball is kicked. When a player kicks a ball, his foot is prob in contact with the ball for 2/3 frames. When do they count that it would be offside- at the point where the foot first makes contact with the ball or at the point that the ball is no longer in contact with the foot?

Which means with that level of dubiety if the lines are basically touching the benefit of the doubt should go with the attack.

It seems set up to rule goals offside not onside.

The random execution of VAR and the lack of someone being able to take control of it as a solution is laughable and surely just exacerbates every single escalating issue.

[Mr Pink]

Which means with that level of dubiety if the lines are basically touching the benefit of the doubt should go with the attack.

100% the margin of error due to their technology limitations and human error is much larger than the margins that they’re ruling something offside.

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This seems as good a place as any to put this

[ame="https://twitter.com/ben_rumsby/status/1782718747729334315"]https://twitter.com/ben_rumsby/status/1782718747729334315[/ame]

Also interesting that so many aren't allowed to ref our games or Everton games, but relatively few other clubs are mentioned for other refs not being allowed to officiate.

[Cerbie]

This seems as good a place as any to put this

https://twitter.com/ben_rumsby/status/1782718747729334315

Also interesting that so many aren't allowed to ref our games or Everton games, but relatively few other clubs are mentioned for other refs not being allowed to officiate.

I thought Cootes was a Manc too?

[Scratch]

Still find it weird that Taylor, living in Wythenshawe, probably mates with loads of City and United fans, is allowed to referee their games. Got to be a conflict of interest there, even if he doesn't directly support either club.

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It's interesting what is written and what is implied from it. Both Tierney and Bond are from Wigan, Bond can't do Liverpool or Everton matches which implies he must be a fan of one or the other if it was geographic reasons Tierney wouldn't be able to do us or Everton either. Assuming Bond is a fan of us or Everton the reason he can't do Wigan matches has to be geographic reasons, but the greater manchester refs don't seem to be excluded from the Manchester clubs games, Altrincham and Wythenshawe are both less than 10 miles from Manchester so how large is the geographical exclusion zone?

[baitman]

Good process, mates

[Kenneth]

Forest have been assigned a notts county fan for their next game.

[Buzzo]

The games ****ed.

This was disallowed. I’ve watched at least ten times, I have no idea why it was disallowed. I literally cannot see a thing wrong here?

[ame]https://twitter.com/nffc_epl/status/1783246314836209941[/ame]

[peterbread]

Wait what? Am I missing something here. Looks like a nicely worked goal with nothing else happening. Where is the part that led to it being disallowed?

And how many times have wolves been done this season by bad officiating.