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  • Exiled_red
    Paisley
    • Nov 2007
    • 55269

    #1636
    Originally posted by Cerbie
    A lot of the figures being banded about today need context to fully understand. Sky had one, 83% correct decisions pre-VAR and 96% now. Honestly most are comparing apples, bananas and starfruit, to justify continued use of the system.
    I actually saw someone saying that the referees body had claimed prior to VAR that they were getting 96% of decisions correct, but since VAR that number had changed and become much lower, no idea if that is true or not.

    Also on the numbers you posted I assume that is on decisions that VAR can intervene on? If they are accurate that is a definite improvement reducing incorrect decisions by a fact or 4 (from 17% down to 4%) I would say that a few percent of incorrect decisions is acceptable if those are the decisions that are borderline ones, but I don't feel that is the case when you see for example the Doku challenge on MacAllister and a few others it is still getting decisions wrong that there should be no uncertainty in, and that is the bigger issue.
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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    • Cerbie
      Dalglish
      • Jun 2009
      • 2989

      #1637
      Originally posted by Exiled_red
      I actually saw someone saying that the referees body had claimed prior to VAR that they were getting 96% of decisions correct, but since VAR that number had changed and become much lower, no idea if that is true or not.

      Also on the numbers you posted I assume that is on decisions that VAR can intervene on? If they are accurate that is a definite improvement reducing incorrect decisions by a fact or 4 (from 17% down to 4%) I would say that a few percent of incorrect decisions is acceptable if those are the decisions that are borderline ones, but I don't feel that is the case when you see for example the Doku challenge on MacAllister and a few others it is still getting decisions wrong that there should be no uncertainty in, and that is the bigger issue.
      lots of spin in the medial, particularly Sky - who should be nowhere near it. Clearly Webb's bull**** appearances on Monday nights are generating viewing figures to sell advertising and poor VAR feeds the punditry scope for comment too.
      We are here for a good time not a long time....

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      • DerKrampus
        Dalglish
        • Dec 2023
        • 2406

        #1638
        I'd be happy if they just put their flag up immediately rather than wait 30 seconds for someone to get injured.

        Also, put a linesperson on each quadrant, the game is so fast now that **** will get missed which I suspect is why VAR was introduced in the first place.
        "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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        • Mr Pink
          Dalglish
          • Sep 2019
          • 2361

          #1639
          Originally posted by DerKrampus
          I'd be happy if they just put their flag up immediately rather than wait 30 seconds for someone to get injured.
          injuries aside, a team gets momentum as they create big chances… the crowd gets behind them, the opposition fans/defenders get anxious, etc etc… shooting practice and that feeling of knocking at the door.

          It almost doesn’t matter if these big chances wouldn’t have counted anyway, because of a late flag.

          I’m happy for them to leave it down in cases where they’d nearly be guessing anyway- but I feel like 9 times out of 10 when they raise the flag, after the chance has gone- and then when I see the replay afterwards it’s very much clearly offside
          I don't tip

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          • Exiled_red
            Paisley
            • Nov 2007
            • 55269

            #1640
            Analysis of the VAR errors this season and who gained and who lost as a result

            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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            • SB
              3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
              • Mar 2007
              • 36107

              #1641
              4 decisions against us & none for us sounds fair
              Me, I

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              • rudedog
                Pig hater
                • Feb 2007
                • 9911

                #1642
                Originally posted by Exiled_red
                Analysis of the VAR errors this season and who gained and who lost as a result

                https://www.espn.com/soccer/insider/...23-24?_nocache
                They missed out the pen we should have got against Man City for the Doku challenge on Alexis - that would take us to 5 VAR errors (net) that went against us (67% more than anyone else)
                Last edited by rudedog; 25-05-24, 10:02 AM.

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                • Exiled_red
                  Paisley
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 55269

                  #1643
                  Originally posted by rudedog
                  They missed out the pen we should have got against Man City for the Doku challenge on Alexis - that would take us to 5 VAR errors (net) that went against us (67% more than anyone else)
                  I believe they were the ones that PGMOL admitted they got wrong
                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                  • S-RED
                    Shankly
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6929

                    #1644
                    Originally posted by Exiled_red
                    I believe they were the ones that PGMOL admitted they got wrong
                    well whats the point in that then, hahahaha. pointless if its only what they admit too, because they are protecting their mate.....

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                    • danperkins
                      Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                      • May 2010
                      • 50408

                      #1645
                      I find when I bring up the VAR discrepancies and how we've got royally ****ed over, people just laugh now as they can't explain it ... so they just mock us. The galling thing is that it was City & Arsenal who finished above us and got away with stone wall stuff vs us. We should be champions but sure here we are.

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                      • Mark79
                        Paisley
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 11006

                        #1646
                        [ame]https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1798697632552071312[/ame]
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                        • Exiled_red
                          Paisley
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 55269

                          #1647
                          Hopefully there has been some discussion about how it could be improved
                          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          • Charly
                            Paisley
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 10370

                            #1648
                            A.I.
                            In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                            • peterbread
                              Dalglish
                              • May 2007
                              • 3801

                              #1649
                              Man City joining the tyranny of the majority now to target Wolves.

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                              • Norbs
                                Big Girl's Blouse
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 42637

                                #1650
                                A fiver if you can point out the difference between the new directive and 'clear and obvious error'

                                The "referee’s call" means that the VAR should only intervene if they can "see without any doubt the on-pitch official has made a clear mistake".

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