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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
    I think there's a fair amount of revisionism going on in this thread.

    His achievements at Barca were fantastic. The best footballing side i've ever seen.

    He didn't walk into that job and the team was there. A lot of the older, established players were eased out by Pep.

    The work he did with Messi arguably turned him into an exceptional player to the best there's ever been.

    No argument that his time at both Citeh and Bayern have been relative failures but it doesn't mean we re-write history and **** all over his Barca tenure.
    Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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      totally agree - that Barca team were epic. It was pure playstation stuff that they were playing at the time

      Also, his City teams have been brilliant too. Granted he has had endless resources but so did managers before him. He topped 100 points and if it wasn't for the greatest LFC team of all time, he'd have won 4 leagues in a row. It is just with the champions league he has failed at a late hurdle. There is an argument that effectively wrapping up the league a good 6 to 8 weeks before the CL final is what cost him this season. The team looked undercooked against Chelsea. Also, if they played against a team that would have had more of a go in the final - a PSG, Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca - then it is likely that City would have hurt them.

      As an LFC fan though, it is great to see them still not win the CL.

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        I couldn't give a turd if he's great or not, his teams have played a part in getting us to where we are now by raising the standard of football in England.
        Was muß, das muß.

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          you guys
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            I'm not as bothered about them being not bothered about not winning the Champions Leagues as I thought I would be.
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              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
              you guys

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                How many of you guys have fake accounts on Grand Old Team because that next manager poll has got to be satire!
                Football without Origi is nothing

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                  Aren't fake accounts, just accounts?
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                    How many of you guys have fake accounts on Grand Old Team because that next manager poll has got to be satire!
                    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                      Aren't fake accounts, just accounts?
                      Plastic accounts
                      Was muß, das muß.

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                        Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                        I'm not as bothered about them being not bothered about not winning the Champions Leagues as I thought I would be.
                        Are they really not bothered or just pretending

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                          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                          Are they really not bothered or just pretending
                          I guess they are trying to pretend they are not bothered, like a teenage boy shunned by the girl he fancies having finally plucked up the courage to ask her out only to be told in no uncertain terms to “**** off”. He’s not bothered, at least that’s what he loudly tells his mates. But it seems natural that both he and City would be bothered given the amount of effort both put in to their pursuits. Therefor paradoxically the very existence of a thread exclaiming how ‘not as bothered as they thought they would be’ they are, suggests that they are in fact bothered. People who aren’t bothered tend to say very little.

                          All of this suggests a degree of obsession with how I feel about them being not bothered. But worry not! I am seeking counselling.
                          Last edited by Buzzo; 02-06-21, 09:44 AM.
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                            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                            I guess they are trying to pretend they are not bothered, like a teenage boy shunned by the girl he fancies having finally plucked up the courage to wake her out only to be told in no uncertain terms to “**** off”. He’s not bothered, at least that’s what he loudly tells his mates. But it seems natural that both he and City would be bothered given the amount of effort both put in to their pursuits. Therefor paradoxically the very existence of a thread exclaiming how not as bothered as they thought they would be, suggests that they are in fact bothered. People who aren’t bothered tend to say very little.

                            All of this suggests a degree of obsession with how I feel about them being not bothered. But worry not! I am seeking counselling.


                            So you're not bothered about how not bothered they are, but secretly you are quite bothered because it's clear they are bothered? Right? Ah I shouldn't have bothered
                            Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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                              Originally posted by wiw View Post


                              So you're not bothered about how not bothered they are, but secretly you are quite bothered because it's clear they are bothered? Right? Ah I shouldn't have bothered
                              I feel my commenting any further can only be incriminating.
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                                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                                I feel my commenting any further can only be incriminating.
                                Admitting the problem is often the hardest step
                                Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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