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[rudedog]

And their first goal should have been cancelled since our similar one last game was.

No it shouldn't - our goal was ruled out because Endo was offside when the ball was played in. The fact that Endo then subsequently blocked a player made him active.

There goal couldn't be offside as you can't be offside from a corner

[ChesterDave]

No it shouldn't - our goal was ruled out because Endo was offside when the ball was played in. The fact that Endo then subsequently blocked a player made him active.

There goal couldn't be offside as you can't be offside from a corner

I don't think anyone is arguing it was offside. It is the playing the man and pushing him out of the way that people have the problem with. Had no interest in winning the ball, just to impede the defender

[rudedog]

I don't think anyone is arguing it was offside. It is the playing the man and pushing him out of the way that people have the problem with. Had no interest in winning the ball, just to impede the defender

But that's not why our goal was disallowed in the league cup final. It was offside.

Deliberate blocking/pushing seems to be an OK thing

[Scratch]

Watched it on MotD yesterday, and Macca wasn't really blocked from cutting the ball out. There was an initial tussle before KdB played the ball in, and then after that Macca seemed quite happy to be pulling the City player, he wasn't making any effort to get the ball, just keeping the City player away from it. You'll notice Macca made no appeal to the ref after the ball ended up in the net, he looked more confused over who should have been marking Stones.

[vlahka]

No it shouldn't - our goal was ruled out because Endo was offside when the ball was played in. The fact that Endo then subsequently blocked a player made him active.

There goal couldn't be offside as you can't be offside from a corner

Unless I'm wrong the city player was offside when the corner kick was taken. Only difference is endo stood still while the city player pushed ours backwards while offside.

[rudedog]

Unless I'm wrong the city player was offside when the corner kick was taken. Only difference is endo stood still while the city player pushed ours backwards while offside.

offside from a corner kick?

[Scratch]

Unless I'm wrong the city player was offside when the corner kick was taken. Only difference is endo stood still while the city player pushed ours backwards while offside.

Can't be offside from a corner tho.

[Deano]

Conspiracy theory here - Was the ball in out of play before Stones connected ???????

Suggest it gets watched a few times ??

[rudedog]

Conspiracy theory here - Was the ball in out of play before Stones connected ???????

Suggest it gets watched a few times ??

The commentators did say that it was checked to see if it had went out of play.

[Cerbie]

The commentators did say that it was checked to see if it had went out of play.

VAR can’t definitively check that, they rely on the Lino and what camera angles they have available. I’m guessing most of those were ****e because of the height he whipped the ball in at, it wasn’t on the deck (near the line) so they would struggle to call it.

[Exiled_red]

The difference is that interfering whilst in an offside position has a lower bar than for a foul. Our cup final goal was disallowed for interference from a player in an offside position (whether you agree with the subjective nature of the incident is another matter). But what can be inferred from that is that and subsequent decisions assuming consistency (another matter entirely) is that what Endo did wouldn't have been enough for a foul, so had he done that from an onside position the goal should have stood. You can't be offside from a corner so for a goal to be disallowed the contact has to be sufficient to be a foul which I don't think the City goal was, but neither was the Endo incident in the cup final.

The obvious problem with this is consistency as it isn't being applied consistently (see Man utd goal) but also what the threshold is for a foul, seemingly you can kick someone in the chest and that isn't a foul either...

[rudedog]

VAR can’t definitively check that, they rely on the Lino and what camera angles they have available. I’m guessing most of those were ****e because of the height he whipped the ball in at, it wasn’t on the deck (near the line) so they would struggle to call it.

They did briefly show a camera angle on screen which was looking right down the line towards the corner flag so I just assumed that they had used that to complete the check

[ChesterDave]

VAR can’t definitively check that

VAR can check "goals and offences leading up to a goal" so that reads to me whether or not the ball stayed in play can be checked

[Norbs]

Conspiracy theory here - Was the ball in out of play before Stones connected ???????

Suggest it gets watched a few times ??

Doesn't look like it here

https://www.skysports.com/football/v...anchester-city

[vlahka]

offside from a corner kick?

I...thought you could be offside for absolutely everything unless in your own half. Was it always like this or a revision a few decades ago I slept through and never noticed? I can hear my ancestors laughing at me. Not that thats anything new.