Euro 2020 (In 2021)

[dom9]

Do you reckon we do underperform though? Very few English players end up in other leagues, and how often are the best players picked through the award systems English, given how many play in the english leagues. And if you look at the English premiership, how many of the best players are actually English at team level? Not enough I would say. Maybe this is our level.

I would say yes.

And it's mainly through the bizarre refusal to play to individual's strengths imo. From Barnes to Le Tissier to Gerrard and many, many more.

Gascoigne is practically the only flair player I can think of who thrived playing for England.

[SB]

Would love a Robbo assist or goal... not watching it but I bet Kane’s been totally anonymous. Can’t watch England with this group of players... ****e bunch.

Totally anonymous as you say & Sterling looking totally inept at controlling the ball. I’d haul them both off at HT

[Venton]

Primarily, they don’t end up in other leagues because the PL has the most money and clubs in England pay a premium for them in wages. They can earn more in the championship then in most top leagues in Europe.

True, but I don't see the big rich teams in the European leagues nicking our best. Trippier and Sancho I can think of. Who else?

[Exiled_red]

Do you reckon we do underperform though? Very few English players end up in other leagues, and how often are the best players picked through the award systems English, given how many play in the english leagues. And if you look at the English premiership, how many of the best players are actually English at team level? Not enough I would say. Maybe this is our level.

I think that this is a good point despite the PL being the self proclaimed best league in the world you feel that they could benefit from experience playing in other leagues and cultures like most other international sides have, OK there are a couple of players playing in Germany, but before that you only really have Beckham and Hargreaves who were in the England side for a significant period while playing in other leagues.

[Venton]

Kane and Sterling both next to each other, going for the same ball there...

[Kenneth]

I would say yes.

And it's mainly through the bizarre refusal to play to individual's strengths imo. From Barnes to Le Tissier to Gerrard and many, many more.

Gascoigne is practically the only flair player I can think of who thrived playing for England.

Harry Kane is generally regarded as one of the best strikers in Europe, and what have England created for him so far? One touch in the box first half. If you have such a goal scorer and expert header of the ball, you set yourself up to exploit it, you focus on width and crosses, not a front three. At least you probably should.

[dom9]

Harry Kane is generally regarded as one of the best strikers in Europe, and what have England created for him so far? One touch in the box first half. If you have such a goal scorer and expert header of the ball, you set yourself up to exploit it, you focus on width and crosses, not a front three. At least you probably should.

Yep.

Most of this team have played in Champions League finals.

[Venton]

Harry Kane is generally regarded as one of the best strikers in Europe, and what have England created for him so far? One touch in the box first half. If you have such a goal scorer and expert header of the ball, you set yourself up to exploit it, you focus on width and crosses, not a front three. At least you probably should.

This is true. Playing Foden on the right seems odd as well. Sixes and sevens.

By the way, I was watching Spain and we were talking about who the names are in the team now - you don't really know them like you used to. What do you reckon the Europeans are making of our midfield? Who?

[Kenneth]

I mean, you have to have a plan. Drop Kane and play a creative/tricky number 10 instead and try and pick the defence apart, but just do something coherent.

[Venton]

Yep.

Most of this team have played in Champions League finals.

And lost in them. Nice that Robbo has a medal though

[Kenneth]

This is true. Playing Foden on the right seems odd as well. Sixes and sevens.

By the way, I was watching Spain and we were talking about who the names are in the team now - you don't really know them like you used to. What do you reckon the Europeans are making of our midfield? Who?

They must be. I know I was

[dom9]

And lost in them. Nice that Robbo has a medal though

Good old Robbo

They must be. I know I was

And me.

[Venton]

They must be. I know I was

Same

[SB]

Grealish on for Foden. Thought Sterling would have been hooked

[Exiled_red]

The problem with England for me is that they are always just wanting to play the best players even if they don't know what to do with them. They end up with a team of players that don't work together or play to any of their strengths so none of the players replicate their club form. IMO they need to get a working system and have the balls to leave out big name players if they don't suit the system, and that has probably been the case for about the last 20 years.