Originally posted by Sir Bob
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I'll be honest, i'm not in the best mood today. I'm cheesed off with all the rubbish I've read & heard about about last nights debacle. Lets get a few facts straight here.
Under Rafa, LFC have performed miles better than they have a right to do. Forget all this nonsense that we should be challenging for the league every year, for the moment those days are gone.
Why? Money thats why. Basically, the more cash you have, the more success you have. Sure there are exceptions but basically theres a direct relationship between money & success.
Since Rafa's been at the club i'd say we are the 3rd or 4th richest club in England. Chelsea & Man U are miles ahead of us. I'd say we are on a par with Arsenal. So realistically, if Man U & Chelsea are well managed off & on the pitch, it will be very very hard to match them. Along the same lines if we are well managed off & on the pitch, teams like Spurs, Newcastle & the like shouldn't be able to match us. So are natural position in the league should be 3rd/4th. In Rafa's 2 seasons, he's finished 5th & 3rd. On top of that we've won the FA Cup, the most important domestic cup competition. all in all domestically, thats a pretty decent effort in my book.
Next to Europe. We are probably in the top 10 richest clubs in Europe, trying to compete with teams with millions more to spend than us. As we all know we won the CL 2 years ago & reached the last 16 last year, thats a massive over achievement for the 3rd richest club in England.
Since Rafa's been at LFC he cannot compete for the best players, as we don't have the cash. We can't buy a Rooney, a Ballack, a SWP or even a Carrick. We have to buy more middle of the range players, players on frees or players with a particular love of LFC. And yet despite this massive handicap, Rafa is expected to lead us to no.19. He's a great manager but not a miracle worker.
In our glory days we had as much money as anyone bar Man Utd. The gap between us was much narrower financially then, & as the country's best club, we generally had our pick of the talent. A modern day King Kenny, Barnes etc wouldn't come to LFC. We couldn't afford them & even if we could, if Chelsea or Man U came calling they'd probably go there.
Under Rafa we've won the most important club trophy in the world, something Wenger hasn't managed in a decade at Arsenal & Ferguson has managed only once in 20 odd years at the worlds richest club. Even Mourinho with all the riches at his disposal hasn't been able to guide Chesea to the ultimate promised land.
I'm not saying Rafa is beyond criticism, he's not. He ballsed up last night. But think beyond one match , to what the Spaniard has achieved with the 3rd richest club in England.
Under Rafa, LFC have performed miles better than they have a right to do. Forget all this nonsense that we should be challenging for the league every year, for the moment those days are gone.
Why? Money thats why. Basically, the more cash you have, the more success you have. Sure there are exceptions but basically theres a direct relationship between money & success.
Since Rafa's been at the club i'd say we are the 3rd or 4th richest club in England. Chelsea & Man U are miles ahead of us. I'd say we are on a par with Arsenal. So realistically, if Man U & Chelsea are well managed off & on the pitch, it will be very very hard to match them. Along the same lines if we are well managed off & on the pitch, teams like Spurs, Newcastle & the like shouldn't be able to match us. So are natural position in the league should be 3rd/4th. In Rafa's 2 seasons, he's finished 5th & 3rd. On top of that we've won the FA Cup, the most important domestic cup competition. all in all domestically, thats a pretty decent effort in my book.
Next to Europe. We are probably in the top 10 richest clubs in Europe, trying to compete with teams with millions more to spend than us. As we all know we won the CL 2 years ago & reached the last 16 last year, thats a massive over achievement for the 3rd richest club in England.
Since Rafa's been at LFC he cannot compete for the best players, as we don't have the cash. We can't buy a Rooney, a Ballack, a SWP or even a Carrick. We have to buy more middle of the range players, players on frees or players with a particular love of LFC. And yet despite this massive handicap, Rafa is expected to lead us to no.19. He's a great manager but not a miracle worker.
In our glory days we had as much money as anyone bar Man Utd. The gap between us was much narrower financially then, & as the country's best club, we generally had our pick of the talent. A modern day King Kenny, Barnes etc wouldn't come to LFC. We couldn't afford them & even if we could, if Chelsea or Man U came calling they'd probably go there.
Under Rafa we've won the most important club trophy in the world, something Wenger hasn't managed in a decade at Arsenal & Ferguson has managed only once in 20 odd years at the worlds richest club. Even Mourinho with all the riches at his disposal hasn't been able to guide Chesea to the ultimate promised land.
I'm not saying Rafa is beyond criticism, he's not. He ballsed up last night. But think beyond one match , to what the Spaniard has achieved with the 3rd richest club in England.
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