**TONIGHT AT 10.35pm** Question Time - Kelvin MacKenzie

[rushscored4]

The BBC invite Mackenzie on one of their shows. Shock. Mackenzie again refuses to apologise. Horror. The Hillsborough issue is glossed over whilst "more important things" like Iraq are not. Gasp.

Did anybody sincerely believe it would be any different?

[Red_Polo]

Of course he still wants money, but I don't think that's why he says what he does. He has no sense of personal ethics in his work so he sees no wrong in what he did, whatever doubt he has about his actions he sweeps away by trying to paint Liverpool fans as being to blame for the disaster and an 'overreaction' to his headlines.

One thing I would say...

I wish Irvine Patnick got half the **** MacKenzie does. In '89 he was the Tory politician and MP for Sheffield Hallam (that's Hallam not Hillsborough) who was on the scene at Hillsborough orchestrating the cover-up for Maggie and the South Yorks Police and feeding dickheads like MacKenzie ****e they would gladly print, whilst the (Labour I think) MP for Hillsborough itself was refused access to the ground. He's now 'Sir' Irvine Patnick would you believe. Sickening.

[Red_Polo]

Have uploaded the relevant bits in case anyone who didn't see Question Time wanted to see for themselves....

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8KRZSVRU

It's about 35Mb

[lfc4ever]

Just get the odious spineless tw@t to stand in front of a full flowing gobbing Diouf for an hour or so, he'll soon the message about what it's like to be spat on.

[rushscored4]

As far as I know I am the only member on this website who was actually injured at Hillsborough and a good friend of mine died there. Whilst I will never give up the quest for justice, some of the suggestions I've seen are frankly ridiculous and only worsen the image of Liverpool fans in the eyes of the media and the general public.

I apologise to anybody who feels these heartfelt comments are patronising.

[Nicey]

Can some Kind soul upload it on to Tinternet please

[Red_Polo]

Can some Kind soul upload it on to Tinternet please

I did post it earlier

Here's the linky...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8KRZSVRU

[Red_Polo]

As far as I know I am the only member on this website who was actually injured at Hillsborough and a good friend of mine died there. Whilst I will never give up the quest for justice, some of the suggestions I've seen are frankly ridiculous and only worsen the image of Liverpool fans in the eyes of the media and the general public.

I apologise to anybody who feels these heartfelt comments are patronising.

I think there are a few on the site that were there, but I don't think any others were physically injured, not to my knowledge anyway. Agree with what you say about being careful how we go about things, especially since people like MacKenzie will take any opportunity to paint us as just being militant rather than taking up a genuine and important issue.

[IrishPaul]

I think there are a few on the site that were there, but I don't think any others were physically injured, not to my knowledge anyway. Agree with what you say about being careful how we go about things, especially since people like MacKenzie will take any opportunity to paint us as just being militant rather than taking up a genuine and important issue.

Agree 100% Too

[Fagan]

Chris Johnson, editor of Mercury, the only remaining press agency in Liverpool, angrily denied Mr MacKenzie's claims.


He said: "I will be examining what he said and consulting with my lawyers as there may be a case of defamation.


"I will state categorically that Mercury Press Agency had no part whatsoever in any word that was printed in that Sun article.


"There was more than one press agency operating in Liverpool at that time, and we covered Hillsborough at the Liverpool end, not the Sheffield end.


"I don't know why he should choose this time to apportion or spread the blame to other people.


"He should name this Liverpool press agency and give them the opportunity to confirm or deny that they were involved in the story, and explain their part in it.


"We had a reporter at Hillsborough on the day and he was so traumatised by what he'd seen that he wasn't able to file copy for 48 hours."

[Neil Young]

Have uploaded the relevant bits in case anyone who didn't see Question Time wanted to see for themselves....

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8KRZSVRU

It's about 35Mb

I can't get it to work. Do you have to register or summat?

[Spionkop69]

As far as I know I am the only member on this website who was actually injured at Hillsborough and a good friend of mine died there. Whilst I will never give up the quest for justice, some of the suggestions I've seen are frankly ridiculous and only worsen the image of Liverpool fans in the eyes of the media and the general public.

I apologise to anybody who feels these heartfelt comments are patronising.

I was at Hillsborough but was uninjured (physically) and lost no friends or relatives.

I wholly agree with the sentiment in your post.

[Shaggy]

My old man had tickets for me and him, albeit not in the Leppings Lane, but he (his business) was later invited to sponsor the match ball at Chesterfield v Port Vale. It was important for his work that he did that, so we ended up there. I was gutted, and listened to the game as I sat in the wooden stands at Chesterfield as Darren Beckford ran rings around them. I vividly remember the first, speculative reports, claiming a wall had collapsed.

[El Diego]

Someone please kill the scumbag, he doesn't deserve to breath the same air as anyone. ****ING PIECE OF ****ING **** I HOPE HE DIES A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE DEATH AND EVERYONE GETS TO SEE IT.

[AFII]

Hillsborough: The buffoon

Jan 12 2007

Liverpool Echo


DISCREDITED former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie has changed his mind again, admitting he could have been wrong about the Hillsborough disaster.

But despite being unsure of his facts - again - the ex-Fleet Street buffoon last night refused to apologise for the hurt caused by his newspaper's lies.

Amid heated scenes on BBC's Question Time show, MacKenzie then blamed others for the disgusting claims in the story.

He claimed for the first time that two of the most notorious claims contained in the Sun article, headlined The Truth, about fans stealing from the dead bodies and urinating on them, had come from a Liverpool news agency, a Tory MP and a senior police officer, all un-named.

In an astonishing admission, even though he admitted he did not know whether these claims were true he refused a challenge by Question Time presenter David Dimbleby and panellists to apologise for the article that appeared after the tragedy, in which 96 people died.

Former Labour MP Claire Short told MacKenzie: "You've hurt so many people. Why don't you just apologise?"

But MacKenzie, now a columnist on The Sun, remained defiant. While he admitted Liverpool fans were angry with him, he said: "They want to find somebody who caused the disaster.

"It's become so caught up in a battle between Liverpool FC and me that no matter what I said now, it wouldn't resolve the issue."

He also repeated publicly that he apologised at the time only because he was ordered to by Sun proprietor Rupert Murdoch.

MacKenzie's comments came less than a week after more than 40,000 Liverpool fans staged an emotional protest at the start of Liverpool's FA Cup tie against Arsenal, which was screened on BBC1.

For six minutes at the start of the game, chants of "Justice for the 96" filled the stadium. The protest was organised by fans who were angered at the BBC's decision to hire MacKenzie despite revelations last month that he stood by the paper's infamous coverage of the Hillsborough disaster.

It was revealed that MacKenzie had told a crowd of businessmen: "I was not sorry then and I'm not sorry now."

He said The Sun had only reported "the truth" when it accused fans of stealing from and urinating on the dead despite Lord Justice Taylor's report on the disaster discrediting such reports.

Claims are denied by agency

CHRIS Johnson, editor of Mercury, the only remaining press agency in Liverpool, today angrily denied Mr MacKenzie's claims.

He said: "I will be examining what he said and consulting with my lawyers as there may be a case of defamation.

"I will state categorically that Mercury Press Agency had no part whatsoever in any word that was printed in that Sun article.

"There was more than one press agency operating in Liverpool at that time and we covered Hillsborough at the Liverpool end, not Sheffield.

"I don't know why he should choose this time to apportion or spread the blame to other people.

"He should name this Liverpool press agency and give them the opportunity to confirm or deny that they were involved in the story, and explain their part in it.

"We had a reporter at Hillsborough on the day and he was so traumatised by what he'd seen that he wasn't able to file copy for 48 hours."

A news agency is an independent organisation which sells stories and information to the media, including newspapers, TV and radio.

The Liverpool ECHO is not and never has been a news agency.

CLICKY - Echo