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    #16
    Countries like Spain, Italy, France and Holland have a much better record than us in this regard though. I think that several factors come into play:

    1/ The physicality of the PL discourages the use of skillful young players who are not strong, they thus get no games against opponents who are better than them and don't improve.

    2/ Related to the above but our reserve/youth teams cannot play in competitive divisions. Players need to handle the pressure of important games, not just be ready physically or be skillful enough.

    3/ Fans are too quick to criticise players who come into the team and demand instant results. Too many clubs are too quick to change not just managers but entire backroom setups. Although the Eurpean model of a director of football may be frowned on here it does allow a club to have a consistant long term policy in areas such as youth development which is not affected by changing thf person in control of first team affairs.

    3/ English players are less likely to know a foreign language and in general our culture is quite insular, which means that it is very rare for our young players to try and make it elsewhere or to gain new experiences which can be a valuable aid to development.

    4/ We are loosing the quantity of green space available to play in reducing the potential number of players that are available. English youth also watch the most Tv and are amongst the least healthy in Europe which probably doesn't help.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #17
      Originally posted by mancdetester View Post
      sorry but didnt we win quite a lot in the past ,mainly with british nationals
      and the odd import?
      to suggest uk lads cant play the game anymore to me is just laughable, they are the same now as they always were - two legs ,one head etc.

      The problem is poor scouting , we had the best around once upon a time .
      Now we dont ,simple as.
      We used to be the best around, we arent now. Simple as
      We have that stupid cnut Frank Arnesen trying to throw sillymoney at the best young talent around
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        #18
        Originally posted by red g View Post
        We used to be the best around, we arent now. Simple as
        We have that stupid cnut Frank Arnesen trying to throw sillymoney at the best young talent around
        People are too quick to blame Chelsea for everything these days.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #19
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          People are too quick to blame Chelsea for everything these days.
          Yes, I agree, that's a very good point. Why do you think that is? Personally, I blame Chelsea.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            #20
            Originally posted by dww View Post
            People are too quick to blame Chelsea for everything these days.
            why not? they are a bunch of cnuts second only to the scum.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
              Yes, I agree, that's a very good point. Why do you think that is? Personally, I blame Chelsea.
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                #22
                Question? Is football better to watch now than 20 years ago?

                For me thats a BIG NO.
                Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  Yes, I agree, that's a very good point. Why do you think that is? Personally, I blame Chelsea.


                  Funny, but true.

                  Still I dislike the fact that so much of football support comes down to hating other teams and in this instance just leads you into a blind alley where the discussion just becomes aren't Chelsea arseholes, to which we all agree and nothing more gets talked about.
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by dww View Post


                    Funny, but true.

                    Still I dislike the fact that so much of football support comes down to hating other teams and in this instance just leads you into a blind alley where the discussion just becomes aren't Chelsea arseholes, to which we all agree and nothing more gets talked about.
                    Yes I agree, it is very easy to get drawn into that trap. However, Chelsea are arseholes, do you not think?
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                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                      #25
                      Neil, you've hit the nail right on the head there.

                      Why did no one else think of that?
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by dww View Post


                        Funny, but true.

                        Still I dislike the fact that so much of football support comes down to hating other teams and in this instance just leads you into a blind alley where the discussion just becomes aren't Chelsea arseholes, to which we all agree and nothing more gets talked about.
                        oh we talk about lots of ways chelsea are arseholes though
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Cacodemon View Post
                          Neil, you've hit the nail right on the head there.

                          Why did no one else think of that?
                          Dunno. Sometimes a fool can see what a wise man can't. Usually it's the other way round though.
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                            #28
                            You calling me a wise man or a fool?
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                              #29
                              Take your pick.

                              Only the fool thinks he's wise. The wise man knows he's a fool.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                                #30
                                I blame Chelsea for the decline of this thread. Abramovich is a ****wit.
                                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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