Liverpool in The 70s + 80s

[SouthAfricaRed]

the evidence youve posted doesnt support your conclusion

What?

My Conclusion that Despite winning the League Year after Year, The teams of the 70s and 80s weren't as invincible as people like to remember?

or

It's a lot more difficult to win the League today than in the 70s and 80s as You cant afford to draw/lose as much as back then?

or

Our overall performances currently are not as Bad as some make it out on here?

I agree that the overall standard has dropped because of financial imbalances between top and bottom, but you cant lose 6 or 7 games and draw a dozen and still win the League, like we often did in the past

chances of a lower side beating the champions have diminished

Chelsea 2006/2007

Lost Liverpool 2-0 (3)
Lost Spurs 2-1 (9)
Lost Boro 2-1 (11)
Drew Villa 1-1 (14)
Drew Villa 0-0 (14)
Drew Fulham 2-2 (15)
Drew Reading 2-2 (8)
Drew Arsenal 1-1 (4)
Drew Utd 1-1 (1)

Chelsea 2005/2006

Lost Utd 1-0 (2)
Lost Boro 3-0 (14)
Lost Fulham 1-0 (12)
Lost Newcastle 1-0 (7)
Lost Blackburn 1-0 (6)
Drew Everton 1-1 (11)
Drew Birmingham 0-0 (18)
Drew Charlton 1-1 (13)
Drew Villa 1-1 (16)

It looks like the Champions still drop pts against Lower teams though

[enema of the state]

So stop Telling me How **** we are now and how Great the teams of the 70s and 80s were

Difference is that Manure, Arsenal and now Chelski have raised the bar dramatically

that conclusion

[SouthAfricaRed]

that conclusion

So you are saying that we are a **** team now compared to the 70s and 80s?

[Red Chilli]

So you are saying that we are a **** team now compared to the 70s and 80s?

Yep.

We're not fit to lace their boots.

[SouthAfricaRed]

Yep.

We're not fit to lace their boots.

The 78/79 Team and King Kenny's 87/88 Team I agree, but we are not far off the rest of them.

Our Current squad is a couple of Players short of becoming a Great side. Just wait and see

[Red Chilli]

You've got to win the title to be a great side IMO. When we do that, then the comparrisons can be made.

[SouthAfricaRed]

You've got to win the title to be a great side IMO. When we do that, then the comparrisons can be made.

I agree 100% - Without the EPL Title, Nothing else matters

[Guest]

I agree 100% - Without the EPL Title, Nothing else matters

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
and nothing else matters

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say
and nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
and nothing else matters

never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
but I know

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
and nothing else matters

never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
but I know

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us, something new
Open mind for a different view
and nothing else matters

never cared for what they say
never cared for games they play
never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
and I know

So close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
No, nothing else matters

[Phil Eel]

The league was more competitive in those days, there wasn't a big 4 which never changed. I judge a team based on performance against it's contemporaries and in the 70's and 80's we were the outstanding team. We're not now though.

You are correct about the competition in those days - WBA, QPR, Derby, Ipswich, Villa etc all challenged us for the Division One title - and failed.....

So if that little asshole Neville thinks that winning the league a few times nowadays when money has talked even compares with what LFC have achieved in a time when it didn't, he is wrong once again !!

[enema of the state]

So you are saying that we are a **** team now compared to the 70s and 80s?

many lfc teams since 1989/90 would fit that description

[SouthAfricaRed]

many lfc teams since 1989/90 would fit that description

All of them IMO except the Current one and the 2001 team to a certain extent

[Dhav]

I was watching ESPN and the second 4-3 against Newcastle, and some of the football we played was simply breathtaking. We ripped Newcastle apart, and with better finishing could have easily scored 7-8, against the side that finished 2nd that season. That team under Roy Evans was on the verge of greatness. But for weaknesses in key positions (especially David James), a lack of bite and mental inadequecies, that team would have been champions and be regarded as a great side. Probably better than any of Houllier's teams, despite lack of trophies.

[Rigadon]

I was watching ESPN and the second 4-3 against Newcastle, and some of the football we played was simply breathtaking. We ripped Newcastle apart, and with better finishing could have easily scored 7-8, against the side that finished 2nd that season. That team under Roy Evans was on the verge of greatness. But for weaknesses in key positions (especially David James), a lack of bite and mental inadequecies, that team would have been champions and be regarded as a great side. Probably better than any of Houllier's teams, despite lack of trophies.

Probably the last time we tried to play football (pass and move, on the ground...) instead of tactics. If Roy Evans had Fergie's bite we'd have probably won the Prem (IMO - before I get shot down).

[SouthAfricaRed]

I was watching ESPN and the second 4-3 against Newcastle, and some of the football we played was simply breathtaking. We ripped Newcastle apart, and with better finishing could have easily scored 7-8, against the side that finished 2nd that season. That team under Roy Evans was on the verge of greatness. But for weaknesses in key positions (especially David James), a lack of bite and mental inadequecies, that team would have been champions and be regarded as a great side. Probably better than any of Houllier's teams, despite lack of trophies.

They got close, but I always felt that the side lacked discipline more than anything else. Always felt like everyone were doing what they wanted.

When Ged arrived and started enforcing discipline, I was very optimistic. He built the team up and it culminated in the Treble season. I was convinced that we'd win the League after that, but unfortunately he spent the Money on the Wrong players and the rest is History

[Rigadon]

They got close, but I always felt that the side lacked discipline more than anything else. Always felt like everyone were doing what they wanted.

Very true. Too many selfish ***** who didn't care about the club.