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    #16
    Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
    No I was saying he was their backup. Gillespie was an excellent player but Hansen/Lawro very rarely missed a game.
    your right, but my point was that i forget he was there back up as towards the end of the eighties he played regularly
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      #17
      john mcgregor
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        #18
        barry venison
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          #19
          Originally posted by red g View Post
          barry venison
          He was ace
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            #20
            Originally posted by DeeGame View Post
            He was ace
            i thought he was as good as his dress sense.
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              #21
              Originally posted by red g View Post
              we only used to have such a small squad back then and they hardly got a look in fron the first squad. Cant even rememember who was back upto Lawrensen and hansen?



              no squad rotation back then - just a steady hard core of 12-3 plus a utility player or 2.

              hence flops were rare. the examples of mcgarvey and harrison are players signed for big fees who never established themselves. youd have to put hodgson and robinson in that bracket.


              main point is, we were good enough all round then to give players like that a try and ditch them if they werent up to it, without derailing the success of the team overall. the same is even more important when it comes to fitting youth players into the 1st team.

              when were strong enough all round to do that like we used to, well be were we want to be.

              the last 15 years is LITTERED with players for whom the expectation - and the difficulty - has proved to much. the very same players, introduced 1 at a time to a winning side, may have been more successful.
              drunk knows best

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                #22
                Jimmy Carter
                I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by enema of the state View Post


                  no squad rotation back then - just a steady hard core of 12-3 plus a utility player or 2.

                  hence flops were rare. the examples of mcgarvey and harrison are players signed for big fees who never established themselves. youd have to put hodgson and robinson in that bracket.


                  main point is, we were good enough all round then to give players like that a try and ditch them if they werent up to it, without derailing the success of the team overall. the same is even more important when it comes to fitting youth players into the 1st team.

                  when were strong enough all round to do that like we used to, well be were we want to be.

                  the last 15 years is LITTERED with players for whom the expectation - and the difficulty - has proved to much. the very same players, introduced 1 at a time to a winning side, may have been more successful.

                  Its amazing when i look back at my squad poster from 83-84
                  that the team photo back then was 16 outfield players, 2 keepers and the management.....found a copy online look....

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by El Diego View Post
                    Jimmy Carter
                    was a 90's flop i think, he was a souness buy, along with speedie, kozma and every other ****e defender we had back then.

                    dont believe for one minute the king would have purchased him.
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                      #25
                      Carter was one of if not the last of King Kenny's bizarre purchases in either 1990 or 1991.

                      Can't blame this one on Souness...

                      Though I'm sure there was a game when Souness was in charge where Jimmy came on as a sub, Souness was not at all impressed with what he saw and subbed him!
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
                        Richard Money
                        He managed my local team last season, Newcastle Jets.

                        Likes to play long ball.

                        Got the sack, now he's managing Walsall, i think they're top or thereabouts of whatever division they're in, League 2?
                        On the Ning Nang Nong
                        Where the Cows go Bong!
                        And the Monkeys all say Boo!
                        There's a Nong Nang Ning
                        Where the trees go Ping!
                        And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
                        On the Nong Ning Nang
                        All the mice go Clang!
                        And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
                        So it's Ning Nang Nong!
                        Cows go Bong!
                        Nong Nang Ning!
                        Trees go Ping!
                        Nong Ning Nang!
                        The mice go clang!
                        What a noisy place to belong,
                        Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Cantankerous View Post
                          Carter was one of if not the last of King Kenny's bizarre purchases in either 1990 or 1991.

                          Can't blame this one on Souness...

                          Though I'm sure there was a game when Souness was in charge where Jimmy came on as a sub, Souness was not at all impressed with what he saw and subbed him!
                          Carter was bought by King Kenny in Jan 1991 for 800k from Millwall

                          He bought Redknapp (350k) and Speedie (675k) at the same time
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                            #28
                            David Hodgson was a good player who should have done a lot better instead of getting pished every week
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                              #29
                              I was never a fan of Kevin MacDonald*. I don't know why, I just didn't take to him. Of course I may be being unfair since we won the Double with him in the team. IIRC a broken leg kept him out for a year then McMahon had taken his place and he couldn''t get back in. Mind you, the fact that he sunk into relative obscurity afterwards might indicate that he wasn't such a good player.

                              * Or is it McDonald? I can't remember, sorry if I got it wrong.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                              May the Lord bless this post.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by darkknight View Post
                                Paul Walsh ?


                                Walsh was top class for us, he would have been a legend had he not been so unlucky with injuries.
                                He certainly was not a flop.
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                                (1995)
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