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Rick Parry looked into moving to a more 'convenient' location nearer motorways etc. - he found that it would devastate the local economy.
Parry also said it would be a 'soulless solution' moving to the outskirts and i would agree. The whole essence of Liverpool FC is 'Anfield', 'The Kop' and 'YNWA' amongst other things and you don't give up heritage like that easily. Everton fans are going bananas at the prospect of moving to the outskirts and i would feel exactly the same if we were considering Kirkby, Speke or the likes. Those who say we're moving anyway so we might as well consider further away locations are forgetting how close to our old site we're moving to - just across the road literally NEXT DOOR and we'll still have an Anfield Road address because it will still be off Anfield Road + our old site will still be part of the match day experience because of the match day related developments that are going to be built on it. I consider our 'move' as more of a footprint adjustment.
In any case the Stanley Park site is not small - much bigger than our old site and would easily support an 80,000+ seater, i think sorting out infrastructure problems and car parking is just something we'll have to do and i'm sure we will find a solution to the problem. Liverpool FC - THIS IS ANFIELD - NOT THE OUTSKIRTS.
Quite funny how Dunk is now saying the plns could be changed a million times before the stadium is built - good get out that - this is what I claim but i'll say this incase it doesn't look like that. Best thing is they are all lapping it up.
I love the Millennium Stadium and it's position in the city centre is fantastic but the transport links and infrastructure around the stadium are amongst the worst I've ever been to...
Disco Darren mentioned that the roads around Anfield are bad. Maybe that's because 20,000 wools are all either trying to get up Queens Drive or the East Lancs after the match instead of driving up empty roads like County Road...
There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.
I love the Millennium Stadium and it's position in the city centre is fantastic but the transport links and infrastructure around the stadium are amongst the worst I've ever been to...
Disco Darren mentioned that the roads around Anfield are bad. Maybe that's because 20,000 wools are all either trying to get up Queens Drive or the East Lancs after the match instead of driving up empty roads like County Road...
I live in Lynholme Rd just off Utt Ave and we've just been balloted regarding residents parking. From what I gather there will eventually be a no-parking ring a mile or so right round Anfield on matchdays/nights. Also the parking on Stanley Park car park will go obviously aswell.
You can only assume from that that people may have to alter their match day travelling habits. Maybe Tom and George are hoping to encourage people to treat matchdays as more of a day out. Open loads of club owned bars, retaurants etc and try and maximise profits that way.
I think the more fans who actually walk or can get a joey to their local footy ground as opposed to driving 300 miles is no bad thing! No offence to OOTs intended.
I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.
Spot on. But still getting in and out is a real pain in the arse. Given we're so close to the M57, M58 & M62we should utilise that as an advantage, and (as an example) stations such as Aintree & Old Roan are within a stone's throw of the said motorways, the intrfastrucure is already there - we just need to add to it, not generate it.
Advantage to who ? People who live outside Liverpool ?
A lot of us live in the city so moving the stadium to the edge of the city or out of the city is no advantage to us. We can make a fantastic stadium close to Anfield. If this wasnt possible then i would reluctantly agree to a move, but it is possible.
I know its little, but thats David Banner. Just wait untill you see the Incredible Hulk
Advantage to who ? People who live outside Liverpool ?
A lot of us live in the city so moving the stadium to the edge of the city or out of the city is no advantage to us. We can make a fantastic stadium close to Anfield. If this wasnt possible then i would reluctantly agree to a move, but it is possible.
Exactly. It has to stay where it is. I don't understand why people from outside Liverpool seem to want us to move other than make their travel easier. Don't want to appear rude but if you travel up from London for a match what difference does an extra 25 minutes make?
Our club is steeped in tradition and part of that is its location. I am struggling with the move to Stanley Park as I can't imagine leaving Anfield yet others seem to almost crave the move to make life easier.
I am beginning to dread the move now as I can see the direction may push us down that corporate route finally. I don't mind a bit of it and understand we need some but I really don't want to drink my LFC beer in a red bar while eating a Joey Jones hot dog and waving my foam finger at the pitch.
Do you not think we can do it our way, the Liverpool way. Instead of following United and Chelsea why not set our own standard.
The ground stays in Anfield and all of us living (unluckily) outside the city walls should shut up and support the club we started with not Liverpool inc!!
what standard do you want us to set? the fact is in order to compete we need more money. either we have roman and bottomless pockets or we gain more money from fans through marketing puishing into new markets etc. I am not sure there is a third way.
we have to move most traditions are based on principles not bricks and motar and this great liverpool tradition was created by one scotsman called bill. he did not do things how the great liverpool had before he chose a new path. that should be the great liverpool way not wistfully looking back at how we used to do things. if that was good enough we would be winning the league every year and have 15 european cups. things change and we need to change with them.
also as an out of towner i could be wrong but people who live around anfield dont enjoy match days and i think they would rather our ground was a little further away from there houses.
the club we started with is no more and should be no more. onwards and upwards.
what standard do you want us to set? the fact is in order to compete we need more money. either we have roman and bottomless pockets or we gain more money from fans through marketing puishing into new markets etc. I am not sure there is a third way.
we have to move most traditions are based on principles not bricks and motar and this great liverpool tradition was created by one scotsman called bill. he did not do things how the great liverpool had before he chose a new path. that should be the great liverpool way not wistfully looking back at how we used to do things. if that was good enough we would be winning the league every year and have 15 european cups. things change and we need to change with them.
also as an out of towner i could be wrong but people who live around anfield dont enjoy match days and i think they would rather our ground was a little further away from there houses.
the club we started with is no more and should be no more. onwards and upwards.
'Of course I didn't take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present.
It was her birthday.
Would I have got married during the football season ?
Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.'
what standard do you want us to set? the fact is in order to compete we need more money. either we have roman and bottomless pockets or we gain more money from fans through marketing puishing into new markets etc. I am not sure there is a third way.
we have to move most traditions are based on principles not bricks and motar and this great liverpool tradition was created by one scotsman called bill. he did not do things how the great liverpool had before he chose a new path. that should be the great liverpool way not wistfully looking back at how we used to do things. if that was good enough we would be winning the league every year and have 15 european cups. things change and we need to change with them.
also as an out of towner i could be wrong but people who live around anfield dont enjoy match days and i think they would rather our ground was a little further away from there houses.
the club we started with is no more and should be no more. onwards and upwards.
what standard do you want us to set? the fact is in order to compete we need more money. either we have roman and bottomless pockets or we gain more money from fans through marketing puishing into new markets etc. I am not sure there is a third way.
we have to move most traditions are based on principles not bricks and motar and this great liverpool tradition was created by one scotsman called bill. he did not do things how the great liverpool had before he chose a new path. that should be the great liverpool way not wistfully looking back at how we used to do things. if that was good enough we would be winning the league every year and have 15 european cups. things change and we need to change with them.
also as an out of towner i could be wrong but people who live around anfield dont enjoy match days and i think they would rather our ground was a little further away from there houses.
the club we started with is no more and should be no more. onwards and upwards.
People dont mind match days, they just mind not being able to park outside there own house, but now the resident parking has been expanded this isnt much of a problem anymore. I knew it would be like this when i bought a house not far from Goodison, as im pretty sure most people who moved close to Anfield did. Im sure the ground has been there a lot longer than many of the people who live in the area. If we did move away from the area then most of the shops, pubs etc would close down, im pretty sure 70 to 80 % of there takings is taken on a match day. The area needs regeneration along with most of north Liverpool, if the new ground brings in extra money for development which in turn icreases house prices. I dont think too many people will object too loudly.
I know its little, but thats David Banner. Just wait untill you see the Incredible Hulk
i could be wrong but i thought that we have had objections from residents throughout the process. obviously living close by you know much more than i do. its a love hate thing maybe?
i could be wrong but i thought that we have had objections from residents throughout the process. obviously living close by you know much more than i do. its a love hate thing maybe?
Yeah of course we have, but some people would object to anything, if the feeling was that strong the whole thing may well have moved out of the city.
One of the leaders of objections was councellor Joe Kenny, the main thrust of his objection was that the club were taking public park land. The club have remedyed this by the plans to turn the current ground into a plaza with a park. The park land he was objecting to us using is a joke anyway, the park has been left to go to ruin over the last 20 years. Turns out Mr Kenny was also an Everton fan
I know its little, but thats David Banner. Just wait untill you see the Incredible Hulk
i thought there was more objections something to do with then we bought the houses to expand. i just thought there were alot of problems. but hey the old memory isnt as good as it was
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