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    #46
    Originally posted by LFC1892 View Post

    I'm one of Rafa's biggest fans but this has been dreadful man management.
    Whether rafa's man management skills are great is up for debate, but i dont think the Dudek situation is an example of poor man management.

    Rafa's just picking the vastly superior keeper.

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      #47
      Originally posted by LFC1892 View Post
      I feel sorry for Jerzy, he hasn't been treated fairly at all. When Reina went through that horrendous patch of form at the start of the season - let's be honest folks, he cost us a few points - Jerzy should have been given a chance. What's the point in having another keeper for backup/competition if you're never going to use him?

      Against Arsenal in those two cup games, I don't blame him for his lack of concentration - I'm sure motivation was long gone at that stage.

      I'm one of Rafa's biggest fans but this has been dreadful man management.
      I don't feel sorry at all, the guy earns more money than most of us will ever see, and it is hardly "being a slave" when all he has to do is do some training 5 hours a day and then sit on a bench for two nights a week. I am sure that his medals he won with us and the life we have been able to give him should be enough to satisfy him when he looks in the mirror. Not as if his life is toiling in a field for food is it?

      Throughout the season the guy has been whining that he isn't playing instead of knuckling down and actually improving himself, forcing his way into the first team and that is exactly the reason why he has had no chance
      of getting in the team. Rafa doesn't seem the kind of manager who would take that sort of behaviour and would rather stick to the players who are committed to improving themselves if they are not in the first team, none of this primadonna bull****.

      It is all about the club and moving forward, not oweing favours to certain people because they are nice, or are people who have given good service to us in the past. It is about who can do what they can to improve. You don't see Sami bleating on about things like this in the media every 5 minutes, he is a true legend.
      You walk down road.

      Right side, ok. Left side ok. Through middle. Squish, just like grape.

      Same with Karate.

      Either you karate do yes, or karate do no. Karate do think so, squish. just like grape.

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        #48
        Why does Dudek feel it's necessary to rock the boat before a CL semi-final?
        Ok - he wants out, but why go to the press? Why now?
        If this is true, that he did do this, he has gone down in my estimation.

        Also, regarding the poster saying that Reina should have been dropped for Dudek earlier on in the season - I disagree. A goalkeeper thrives on the confidence of his coach, and the worst thing for the club would have been for a situation to develop where we have two candidates with an equal chance of holding on to the number 1 jersey - this doesn't work.
        Dudek was not the answer, and his form has since improved to have proven Rafa made the right decision.
        Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it

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          #49
          Originally posted by exmouth red View Post
          I wish i could be a slave on £40,000 a week!
          Too right. The stupid ****. After all the cash LFC have gave him he should be keeping his gob shut leading up to a game of this magnitude. Someone tell Stevie or Carra to **** him one.

          Jerzy had his chances at LFC and bottled it, simple as. Stop being bitter you stupid ****. Thanks the memorys Jerzy, but you're a ****ing liability when you play and I will shed no tears of regret when you leave, especially after coming out with crap like this.

          Don't slam the door on your way out.
          Forwards.......

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            #50
            He had enough money before we bought him. We did not provide Jerzy with his life, he aquired it through his efforts over 25 years before he came to us! How is a 35(?ish) year old keeper with international experience going to better himself by not playing?

            Carson needs games to better himself, what chance does Jerzy have? Also we could have sold him at a fair price, he's not complaining about being number 2 to Reina he's saying if i'm going to be number 2 and not play even if the number one is doing poorly then I want to go somewhere else. After what he's done for us I think he's entitled to say that and there will be some fall-out for not granting it for 2 years! Missing 1 window can be explained but not 4.
            "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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              #51
              Originally posted by BillobShaisley View Post
              He had enough money before we bought him. We did not provide Jerzy with his life, he aquired it through his efforts over 25 years before he came to us! How is a 35(?ish) year old keeper with international experience going to better himself by not playing?

              Carson needs games to better himself, what chance does Jerzy have? Also we could have sold him at a fair price, he's not complaining about being number 2 to Reina he's saying if i'm going to be number 2 and not play even if the number one is doing poorly then I want to go somewhere else. After what he's done for us I think he's entitled to say that and there will be some fall-out for not granting it for 2 years! Missing 1 window can be explained but not 4.
              Sorry mate, but he can get to ****. He's had all year to moan about this and he chooses the most important part of the season to say it. Not only that but he chooses the word "slave" to illurstrate his plight. I'm not PC enough to go overboard on this, but after all the cash LFC have ploughed into his account you'd think there'd be a bit of respect to the fans and his pals at the club.

              The stupid ****.
              Forwards.......

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                #52
                2 years stuck in one place, not allowed to work, not allowed to move?

                "Get to ****" - Thats what he's been asking for for 2 years! "If you dont want to play me, that's fine. But let me leave".
                "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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                  #53
                  I think Rafa is very much aware that your leaving Jerzy
                  When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                    #54
                    There's also no direct quote, source or date to those statements.
                    "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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                      #55
                      Why does Dudek feel it's necessary to rock the boat before a CL semi-final?
                      Ok - he wants out, but why go to the press? Why now?
                      That is what I have been thinking all day, could cause trouble at the one time we don't need it.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                        Why does Dudek feel it's necessary to rock the boat before a CL semi-final?
                        Ok - he wants out, but why go to the press? Why now?
                        If this is true, that he did do this, he has gone down in my estimation.

                        Also, regarding the poster saying that Reina should have been dropped for Dudek earlier on in the season - I disagree. A goalkeeper thrives on the confidence of his coach, and the worst thing for the club would have been for a situation to develop where we have two candidates with an equal chance of holding on to the number 1 jersey - this doesn't work.
                        Dudek was not the answer, and his form has since improved to have proven Rafa made the right decision.
                        My guess is that it is the press who held the interview back or alternatively interviewed him now knowing he was really angry so that it was more of a story. He was quoted a lot saying this sort of thing before the WC and January so I suspect it is more a case of him always having been saying it and people are only know interested in hearing it.

                        I agree with you about Reina btw.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by BillobShaisley View Post
                          There's also no direct quote, source or date to those statements.
                          Fair do's.

                          Just think, that if he did, he could have picked a better time to come out with that drivel. He hardly needs a paper to let people know he's available. There are other ways of doing it without revealing splits in our camp.
                          Forwards.......

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by dww View Post
                            My guess is that it is the press who held the interview back or alternatively interviewed him now knowing he was really angry so that it was more of a story. He was quoted a lot saying this sort of thing before the WC and January so I suspect it is more a case of him always having been saying it and people are only know interested in hearing it.

                            I agree with you about Reina btw.
                            You're probably right - although who could imagine a journalist being unscrupulous like that.
                            Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it

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                              #59
                              If I could earn Dudek's wage for being backup Keeper then I'd gladly be a slave
                              "For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son"

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