Dave Usher Rant - TLW

[Revo]

hahaha the argument thats its alright for the corporates to get first dibs on any final tickets cos they fund gerrards wages is the most inbred ignorant thing ive ever read. and erm parry should disclose where the tickets went not even a debate really

[redblood]

hahaha the argument thats its alright for the corporates to get first dibs on any final tickets cos they fund gerrards wages is the most inbred ignorant thing ive ever read. and erm parry should disclose where the tickets went not even a debate really

Agreed kid he should disclose where they've gone and I have to agree that the Corporate argument is a load of bollox to.
As I've said above UEFA should be allocating the tickets to the Players/Staff and Corporate ****ers.
The 17k allocation should be for the fans alone.
UEFA have nearly as many tickets as either club.

[Morph]

hahaha the argument thats its alright for the corporates to get first dibs on any final tickets cos they fund gerrards wages is the most inbred ignorant thing ive ever read. and erm parry should disclose where the tickets went not even a debate really

Nah mate you like a certain other person misread it, what is it with ppl seeing what they want to see, I never said they should, I said that's why they do. I'm sure at the start of the season certain promises are made to corporates that if they get to the final they get tickets in order to get more cash out of them, now i'm not saying that's right because obviously that takes away from proper fans who want to go, but i'm saying that it's something to keep in mind. Now think twice before you make your inbred ignorant coments muppet

[Revo]

Nah mate you like a certain other person misread it, what is it with ppl seeing what they want to see, I never said they should, I said that's why they do. I'm sure at the start of the season certain promises are made to corporates that if they get to the final they get tickets in order to get more cash out of them, now i'm not saying that's right because obviously that takes away from proper fans who want to go, but i'm saying that it's something to keep in mind. Now think twice before you make your inbred ignorant coments muppet

laughable you calling me a muppet, it says spin doctor right under your name there lad and youve been digging your head out of your arse with this thread. now you can waffle on about as much as you want about corporate this and corporate that but the simple fact is, it doesent matter how many tickets went into the ballot, that **** parry is at liberty and has a duty to keep the fans informed of any ticket process and if you cant get down with that, then i refer you back to my original comment

[Morph]

laughable you calling me a muppet, it says spin doctor right under your name there lad and youve been digging your head out of your arse with this thread. now you can waffle on about as much as you want about corporate this and corporate that but the simple fact is, it doesent matter how many tickets went into the ballot, that **** parry is at liberty and has a duty to keep the fans informed of any ticket process and if you cant get down with that, then i refer you back to my original comment

"and youve been digging your head out of your arse with this thread"

why don't you put together a sentence that makes sense mate

also you've just totally ignored the rest of the post i made so i know the rest of this argument is a waste of time

[Red_Polo]

Oh shut the **** up you two gabbing on at each other

[Revo]

tara lad

[Morph]

Oh shut the **** up you two gabbing on at each other

i know i'm anoying myself

[Red_Polo]

Haha you'll give yourselves headaches

[Revo]

im winding him up so im relaxed brother

[Red_Polo]

"You son, could start a riot in a graveyard"

[lfcruleus]

They've left the computer program running all night and the figures don't look good.

250,000 fancard numbers now checked:

3236 fancards pre-qualified with 7 or more credits
5833 fancards were successful in the ballot
19328 fancards were unsuccessful in the ballot

Total number in the ballot = 19328 + 5833 = 25161
5833 successful, therefore 5833/25161 = 0.232 (3sf), or 23.2% chance of success.

Extrapolation:

5833 * (4000 / 3236) = 7210 (0dp) tickets in the ballot

and

25161 * (4000 / 3236) = 31101 (0dp) fancards qualified for the ballot.

So, to summarise:

17,000 allocation
4,000 to pre-qualifying fancards
7,210-ish available in the ballot
5,790 to 'other sources'

Using the estimated 27,000:

27,000 * 0.2318... = 6259 tickets available in the ballot

Sorry but where are these figures coming from?

[lfcruleus]

Morph

If the allocations end up looking fair and reasonable and it all ends here thats a good outcome.

If they favour the corporates to a mild extent but everyone judges that this is the price of having Steven Gerrard (not sure I agree with that yet) then thats a good outcome.

If it shows that we've been well and truly shafted then there NEEDS to be an uproar cos otherwise whats the point of going week in week out if it happens again. We may as well just watch it for free in what from july will be a smoke free pub.

I spend a grand on LFC every year. If I know that the big occasions are always likely to favour the corporates and us get the dregs then it actually makes sense for me not to go to the games if i want to go to the finals.

Had I saved up that grand, I'd be going to Greece on the 23rd because I'd have paid a little less than that to a tout.

We need to know who goes to the final. Is it the corporates excessively? If it is, we need to demand change. But knowledge is the first step.

Otherwise it allows those who say "stop moaning you don't know the facts" to silence people.

So lets know the facts. Unless the club have stiffed us there is no reason to hide them when there is this amount of bad feeling. And if they have stiffed us then nothing will change THIS time but it at least gives us the chance to force some change for the future.

We don't have to be passive fools being **** on and accepting it. We can express our outrage to the club in the hope (vain or otherwise) of making some changes.

And even if no change comes, we can at least make the informed decision whether we're prepared to spend a grand a year giving them our loyalty or not, or whether to support them closely from afar for free.

If being loyal gives me less chance of going to a final (and it does because I've spent the grand that would buy me a cup final ticket watching a ****ty league season amongst other things etc) then I need to know that frankly.

It's basic information. So what that they've never told us before. We smell a rat (and by the looks so do you) so we're very angry this time. We've not been angry enough to DEMAND it before. That's what's changed.

If they give a **** about us (ha!) then they'll let the information be known.

Once they do, I'll decide whether I'll be spending future seasons in a nice warm smokefree pub watching the reds each game on Scando telly, saving up my ticket money for a potential final - or whether I'll be as loyal as I've always been.

I thought loyalty would be the way to get me to our moments of history. I've now sussed that watching it free on scando tv would give me a better chance of being there with the corporate pricks and the poor fleeced devotees.

So why does it make sense for me to be loyal?

If I have the figures, I can make that call. At the moment, I feel like Dave Usher's Dad.

I don't know why anybody would support the club's furtive secrecy.

First class post.

[The Glove]

This is all bollocks. If Clown boy was ****in honest about it all then ok, we'd be pissed off but that'd be it. But no, he cant do that. Well **** him.

[darkknight]

I really hope not. It's not the fans' fault, i dont begrudge anyone a ticket, other than maybe those who only turn up for CL games and stick two fingers up to the less glamourous games. I was there in the pissing rain for Reading in the CC, i made a 225 mile trip to discover the Arsenal tie had been postponed, i was there for the rematch and for the FA Cup tie not 3 days apart, and i've missed just 1 league game at Anfield, so i'm gutted. But no grudges against proper fans who get off their arses to support the side.

......being in Aust, I m only reading this thread to keep up with what is going on, but I have to say, that's a great effort DJ .