League Title

[kop-al-74]

Player for player rating systems are beyond crap....

Most of those players are as they were last season - so why did we finish 20 odd points behind? Why didnt fate obey your ratings?

Just walk on by........

[paulcooper4]

Find someone else to wind up.

bang him out lad, hes only a fat southerner anyway

[Craig_H]

i think most people are banking on us bringing in a couple of wingers so it's not an unrealistic scenario looking at it that way

Well if we get quality and they gel...and we dont have injuries to major players...and rafa changes his overly conservative approach...and with a bit of luck...then we could do something.

[Craig_H]

Find someone else to wind up.

I'm not winding anyone up you muppet. Anyone who dares to disagree with your wildly radical views MUST be on a windup?

What an arrogant tit you must be, if that's how highly you value your own opinon... :whatever:

Why couldnt you answer my questions?

[Craig_H]

Just walk on by........

Someone else who doesnt seem able to answer the simple questions i've put to them...

I rest my case.

[Craig_H]

bang him out lad, hes only a fat southerner anyway

As opposed to being a fat northerner?

[The Glove]

I'm not winding anyone up you muppet. Anyone who dares to disagree with your wildly radical views MUST be on a windup?

What an arrogant tit you must be, if that's how highly you value your own opinon... :whatever:

Why couldnt you answer my questions?

Probably since thread is about people being positive, then you stroll in wearing your 'The End Is Nigh' sandwich board.

[paulcooper4]

As opposed to being a fat northerner?

yes

[Craig_H]

Probably since thread is about people being positive, then you stroll in wearing your 'The End Is Nigh' sandwich board.

The thread is simply called 'league title' and since the forum generally is about people being allowed to express their opinions, i dont see why i've said much wrong.

It's nothing like 'the end is nigh', i'm just facing the fact that we've got a lot to do to bridge the 20 odd point gap in ONE season and it's probably going to take a bit longer.

[kop-al-74]

Someone else who doesnt seem able to answer the simple questions i've put to them...

I rest my case.

Don't take things to seriously geeze.......I rated them and i gave an opinion to why i rated them.I tried not to be biased and truthfully,thats how i see it.That's all.

[Craig_H]

yes

[Craig_H]

Don't take things to seriously geeze.......I rated them and i gave an opinion to why i rated them.I tried not to be biased and truthfully,thats how i see it.That's all.

I'm not taking them too seriously mate, hence the '' smiley, instead of the ':whatever:' one...and the grin one before.

Just saying though, is it not possible for me to NOT 'walk on by', and for you to tell me why, when most of those players are as they were last season, did we finish 20 odd points behind? And why didnt fate/reality obey your ratings?

[kop-al-74]

I'm not taking them too seriously mate, hence the '' smiley, instead of the ':whatever:' one...and the grin one before.

Just saying though, is it not possible for me to NOT 'walk on by', and for you to tell me why, when most of those players are as they were last season, did we finish 20 odd points behind? And why didnt fate/reality obey your ratings?

I rated on the basis on last years performances and the way it can possibly be this season using last years players and players that didn't play last year such as Kewell and Torres.

Forgetting the marking out of 10 system,what do you not agree with?Cause i have explained what i think of each player.

I can appreciate the out of 10 is a little "crap" as you put it but it's easy to understand.

You did seem come into this thread a little all guns blazing mate,hence why i didn't answer your question at first.

[paulcooper4]

I dissagree,they can only play 11 players at a time.Lets look at it man for man.Marks out of 10:

Reina-Van der sar 8-7 9-7

Pepe for me any day.

Finnan-Neville 8-7

Has there been a more consistant player than Finnan.I doubt Neville will ever be the same after almost a year out.

Carra-ferdinand 9-8

Nothing to choose between them in terms of ability,positional sense and tackling,but for passion and leadership qualities,Carra comes on top.

Agger-Vidic 8-8

I think they have both adapted really well to the premiership.Vidic is the stronger of the two with more pace,but Aggers awareness and ball playing qualities are better.


Riise-Evra 7-8

Evra is proberbly the better defender of the two but going forward and getting goals Riise wins hands down.Riise's not that bad a defender either.


Pennant-Ronaldo 7-9

At present not many players in world football better than Ronaldo in his position.After a poor start,i really think Pennant came on alot in the last few monthes of the season and think he will only get better.

Gerrard-Scholes 9-8 9-9


No one better than Gerrard in the middle of the park.Scholes's return last season made all the difference to them,But does he have the legs this time around?


Mascher-Carrick 8-7 9-7


I have to admit that when we signed Mascher,i did raise an eyebrow,but my god can this guy play.He is an excellent footballer full of energy and great positinal sense.Good passer but could be better.Thats the only thing Carrick proberbly has over him.


Kewell-Giggs 7-8

I think a fit Kewell can make a hugh difference to our wing play.He can also score goals aswell.I really hope he can remain injury free as i believe him alone can make a difference of maybe 10 points.Giggs had an outstanding season last year but the legs maybe going a little.


Torres-Rooney 8-8


This is one i found most difficult to rate.For all of Roonies aproach play and all action style,for me he just doesn't score enough goals to be truly world class.As for Torres,we have bought someone who has been outstanding in an average to poor team.He looks the part and from what i've seen of him,i am really happy.But time will tell only.

Crouch-Saha 8-7


Crouch imo,is an excellent player to have upfront.What he lacks in pace he more than makes up for in his link up play,holding the ball,skill and scores his fair share.Hardly ever injured and a great pro.Saha although fast and strong,doesn't play enough sometimes and little to eager in front of goal.Misses quite a few sitters as does Crouch to be fair.


Subs:

Carson-Kuszchak 6-6 7-6
Hyypia-sylvestre 8-6 8-5
Arbeloa-Brown 7-7 6-5
Aurellio-Heinze 6-7 7-7
Alonso-Hargreaves 8-7
Sissoko-Fletcher 8-6
Kuyt-Rossi 8-5

Veronin and lucas,Nani and Anderson are yet to play so i'm not commenting on them but as we havn't finished our summer buying it proberbly evens it out at this stage.

Pretty much agree with all that. Added a couple of my own ratings to it

[Craig_H]

I rated on the basis on last years performances and the way it can possibly be this season using last years players and players that didn't play last year such as Kewell and Torres.

Forgetting the marking out of 10 system,what do you not agree with?Cause i have explained what i think of each player.

I can appreciate the out of 10 is a little "crap" as you put it but it's easy to understand.

You did seem come into this thread a little all guns blazing mate,hence why i didn't answer your question at first.

It's not really the out of 10 system, it's the 'player vs player' comparison that's useless...because it doesnt mean anything, even if your ratings were accurate. If it did, you'd simply rate every player of every team and the league champions would be a foregone conclusion. We'd all be millionaires courtesy of the bookies

Not 'all guns blazing', just expressing my opinion which IMO is more realistic than most.