who are you?

[paulcooper4]

I couldnt be arsed reading through all of the thread and i never seen he appologised.

dont blame ya mate. it started off with me moaning about some piss-poor chanting and turned into.....well, I dont know what the **** its goin on about now to be honest!

[murder_inc]

You're slower than Morientes.

Im not that ****ing slow you cheeky ****er

[Los Rojos]

sorry mate, i never seen your apology so i take it back.
Appolgies kidder.

Cheers

[Los Rojos]

dont blame ya mate. it started off with me moaning about some piss-poor chanting and turned into.....well, I dont know what the **** its goin on about now to be honest!

I know what you mean Paul. Let me know next time you're going to start a thread so I can practice my lurking skills.

[paulcooper4]

I know what you mean Paul. Let me know next time you're going to start a thread so I can practice my lurking skills.

Tell me about it, its ****ed right up. I feel like matt ****in biscan

[Los Rojos]

[rodo]

i reckon we should hae an lfc band and a tune that blasts out every time we score

[alunevans]

I was absolutely gutted today when after scoring, the kop started singin "who are you, who are you?". ****IN PACK IT IN!!!!! I know we have a lot of cockneys in the kop nowadays, but we are not a cockney club. Leave that **** to them. I cant explain how embarrasing it was hearing it. On the kop`s 100th birthday too.

i SOOOOOOO agree. though to be honest, its the fact that tickets are so expensive these days. people learn to be a football fan rather than be a liverpool fan.

i learned how to be a liverpool fan from being on the kop at the age of 6. you pick it up, and you learn what WE sing as opposed to what others sing.

kids these days can't afford to get in regularly quite like in my day. so people now learn about being a football fan from sky and motd. its inevitable that this kind of uniformity creeps in.

but yes lets stamp it out if we can. i hate it too.

[paulcooper4]

i reckon we should hae an lfc band and a tune that blasts out every time we score

[paulcooper4]

i SOOOOOOO agree. though to be honest, its the fact that tickets are so expensive these days. people learn to be a football fan rather than be a liverpool fan.

i learned how to be a liverpool fan from being on the kop at the age of 6. you pick it up, and you learn what WE sing as opposed to what others sing.

kids these days can't afford to get in regularly quite like in my day. so people now learn about being a football fan from sky and motd. its inevitable that this kind of uniformity creeps in.

but yes lets stamp it out if we can. i hate it too.

Exactly the way I would have worded it if I was clever enough

[rodo]

couldn`t believe that i actually heard that on saturday

[alunevans]

Not really mate, after they started singin "sign on" and "you'll never got a job", "stand up if youve got a job", "theivin scousers" etc, they deserved every bit of stick they got, they also threw cups of drink at us.The diffrence is we where making a pass atthere football team not there residential stereotype.

He's not annoyed that we had a pop at them though. He's annoyed at the witless way it was done, copying supporters from lesser clubs.

[rodo]

the sign on thing is so outdated now but you will never change that

[paulcooper4]

He's not annoyed that we had a pop at them though. He's annoyed at the witless way it was done, copying supporters from lesser clubs.

[univofchicago]

Wow...I admit that I have been taken aback by all these attacks...

I disagree with more 'decent' posts made by Disco, Cacaodemon and Red-Polo and I am inclined to have a healthy debate with them but its clear to me that most of the people here have been negatively affected by the policies, and whatever I say will be immediately dismissed and ridiculed.

But let me say just one thing about my arguments above. In essence, I was defending Milton Friedman NOT Margaret Thatcher. It's a big difference. Why? Because while both Friedman and Thatcher proposes de-regulation and privatization, Friedman actually DOES something to prevent a "two-tier society" from forming (unlike Thatcher). If you actually bothered to properly read my response instead of just casually skimming it through, you will notice that I talk about the NEGATIVE INCOME TAX system. That is such a vital component of Friedman's de-regulation/privatization argument that if you take it out then it erases the whole objective of equality that Friedman advocates. It is a tax system that helps the poor and people in the lower end of the income distribution. There is no other tax system in the world today that helps the poor in the way negative income tax does. How can possibly someone who has been fighting and debating for this system for well over 40 years be accused of not giving a damn about the displaced working class?

Anyways, I find the reactions here VERY interesting. It seems to me that Margaret Thatcher was and still is a very polarizing figure in the UK. I've met a lot of British people over the years. And on rare chances that we talked about Thatcher, the general opinion was very positive. My colleague at the investment bank I used to work in New York was from the UK and although we did not talk much about Thatcher, I do still remember how he kept on citing the example of Thatcher's privatization program as it was some model every other country had to follow (we were doing a CCA of some US/latin america steel companies). So I'm a bit shocked that not only was there an objection to Thatcher's ideas but an overwhelming and hostile one at that. In hindsight I guess it is understandable since this is a Liverpool forum, and the city of Liverpool happen to be one of the worst hit cities. Seems to me that the Brits has to either hate or love Thatcher...