Apparently...

[ronan]

It isnt accepted ever. You still get the same tannoy announcements during those games asking peole to sit down.

The Premier League will be the ones saying something. When people stand, clubs get fined. It also breaks the safety certificate and that can lead to the place being closed.

So keep standing at the game, do it every match, ignore what you get told but when the stand gets closed, dont moan about it because it'll be the 'Im going to stand because its better so **** off' gang that ruined it for everyone else.

Standing gets visiting teams a lesser allocation. Also the home club gets fined for it.

what i meant chris is why,yesterday was it enforced properly as such when last few games for example it hasnt been.

[The Glove]

Its not the League, its the local authority. And yes they would. United had 1 game to get their **** in order after being told umpteen times. That one game lo and behold, they got everyone to sit by chucking people out and the rest all sat. Clubs dont want to risk it.

Yesterday I watched people getting told to sit. Then some of them got pulled out to have a word then let go back to their seat. They go back and sit down. 5 minutes later they are standing again. Well, out you go. Also, it wont just be the standing they get thrown out for, it will be the abuse.

[The Glove]

what i meant chris is why,yesterday was it enforced properly as such when last few games for example it hasnt been.

It was enforced against Toulouse. Again, people got thrown out. There isnt a lot the 60/70 stewards and 20 coppers can do to get people to sit when 12k people are standing. Sure you can try and get the front rows to sit, which is what is always still tried on European games, but against Toulouse, a group of about 20 people stood by the front. Now with them standing that then forces everyone behind them to stand. If they wont sit there isnt a lot you can do, its not worth the hassle. What will have happened is it'll have been reported after the match and the Saftey officers with the Cheif stewards will have taken advice and decided on the best way forward to get people to sit. Now its either the way it was done yesterday or just send in the coppers.

I think it worked at times yesterday. There was a point were they all sat. They still sang. Then as the goals started to go in in the second half near enough every few minutes it was a losing battle.

I wouldnt be surprised if, during league games especially, if they dont come down harder on the standing given the abuse they got last time. Lets not forget, stewards only get £20. is it worth the hassle for that? I couldnt be arsed being kicked off on when all i wanna do is see the game like everyone else. So much easier to let someone with a tit helmet on who is on double time to wade in and drag people out.

[nobbylad]

That's a fair post Nobby....

Interesting that you say if safe standing areas were available you would want to stand. I suppose people now just want the CHOICE to stand or sit and the fact that they're denied that irritates them.

As you know, my youngest lad is one of the most fervent supporters there is, doesn't get to all of the games but he knows most of the songs and sings them for most of the game. Why should he have to stand on a seat all game, risking a slip/fall etc when some knobhead in front of him won't sit down. It's bad enough to try and get him up high enough when there's a corner/shot etc, but standing all game...no.

If there was a SAFE standing area available, then I might consider it, but not when I'm with the kids.

It's a tough call, sometimes I'd love a standing area, then other times I'm grateful for the dispersal/safe area that seats give you.

Sitting down doesn't stop you singing and if most of the heads in the Centenary and Anfield Rd actually bothered to sing, we'd always have a great atmosphere.

[rushscored4]

Personally, I'd prefer big comfy armchairs with a little table and a foot stool. I'd also like the Glove and his fellow stewards to utilise their time better during the match by walking round selling hot dogs and popcorn...

[Monty]

Personally, I'd prefer big comfy armchairs with a little table and a foot stool. I'd also like the Glove and his fellow stewards to utilise their time better during the match by walking round selling hot dogs and popcorn...

[Johnny]

Personally, I'd prefer big comfy armchairs with a little table and a foot stool. I'd also like the Glove and his fellow stewards to utilise their time better during the match by walking round selling hot dogs and popcorn...

I want them to sell badgers noses and squirrels ears and such delicasies.

[Kenneth]

I want them to sell badgers noses and squirrels ears and such delicasies.

Has to be a selection of Larks' tongues, Wrens' livers, Chaffinch brains, Jaguars' earlobes and Wolf nipple chips.

[Johnny]

Has to be a selection of Larks' tongues, Wrens' livers, Chaffinch brains, Jaguars' earlobes and Wolf nipple chips.

Larks' tongues, Wrens' livers, Chaffinch brains, Jaguars' earlobes and Wolf nipple chips are for splitters!!!!!!

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[The Glove]

Larks' tongues, Wrens' livers, Chaffinch brains, Jaguars' earlobes and Wolf nipple chips are for splitters!!!!!!

You get them in the Away end.

[Johnny]

You get them in the Away end.

The Away end is full of Splitters too.

[The Glove]

Thats kinda the point.

[DeeGame]

on a side note..........The Glove - got any funny stories, or heard any, about disabled/handicapped people in the front rows causing trouble?

i doubt it, but i promise to give it a go whenever i bloody manage to get hold of a ticket

[SNFT]

Been reading this and other threads on other sites.

Simple thing is, at the moment persistant standing is not allowed. It's not a club thing, it's a City Council thing who issue the Safety Certificate. Without the Safety Certificate the ground cannot open. It's not unique to Liverpool, it's all over the country.

But it's the word PERSISTANT that is paramount. The club aren't stupid, they know fans will stand at corners, they know fans will stand at penalties, they know that fans will stand during 'exciting' moments. They even know that fans will stand when singing. That is not an issue and never will be as far as I'm aware, but what is the issue are the fans who think they have a right to stand for long periods for no apparent reason during the game.

A handful of fans refused to sit down despite many requests, the vast majority of fans did sit, then they stood up during the 'exciting' moments, then they sat down, then they stood up to sing, then they sat down, they stood up to celebrate the goals, then they sat down.

But some totally refused to sit, my question is - Why are you so special that the 'rules' for want of a better word, apply to 40,000 fans at the match. but do not apply to you ?

Until the City Council changes the stipulations of the Ground Safety Certificate nothing will change, so instead of directing anger towards the club and stewards, why not lobby the City Council ?