Views on Gerrard's "sportsmanship"?

[carheex]

Yesterday, it was blatantly obvious that gerrard's protesting got hibbert sent off when he was going to be given a yellow card. When foreigners or rival clubs do this everyone is up in arms about it.
What's your general opinion on this type of thing:

A) it's a disgrace whoever does it
B) there's nothing wrong with making sure the ref applies the laws correctly
C) in this case it's a bit different as gerrard dived anyway - again!

[lfcruleus]

We dont actually know what was said, It looked like simply "I was clean through", he was stating a fact.
Inside or outside the box it was a red card so its a moot point.
If Clattenburg hadnt sent him off then we would have moaned, if Stevie influenced him then its his problem not Stevies.

[kewellnthegang]

We dont actually know what was said, It looked like simply "I was clean through", he was stating a fact.
Inside or outside the box it was a red card so its a moot point.
If Clattenburg hadnt sent him off then we would have moaned, if Stevie influenced him then its his problem not Stevies.

[AFII]

Gerrard didn't dive. If you have looked at the replays then Hibbert clearly pulls Gerrards shirt and bring him down.

The rule says that it's a red card so I can't see any problem if Stevie told him or asked him about what card Hibbert would get.

If the ref had given Hibbert a yellow then he should have been banned. It's only refs that acts like they want to be seen and discussed that don't follow the rules.

[kewellnthegang]

Gerrard didn't dive. If you have looked at the replays then Hibbert clearly pulls Gerrards shirt and bring him down.

The rule says that it's a red card so I can't see any problem if Stevie told him or asked him about what card Hibbert would get.

If the ref had given Hibbert a yellow then he should have been banned. It's only refs that acts like they want to be seen and discussed that don't follow the rules.

i feel dirty saying it but he,s right

[James]

As captain Stevie is allowed to put his point across to the ref - if it was the entire squad around the ref it would have been a different story.

[carheex]

As captain Stevie is allowed to put his point across to the ref - if it was the entire squad around the ref it would have been a different story.

I'm not so sure about this one. The ref had already given the penalty - gerrard stormed up to him when he saw the yellow card. What point was he trying to make and why?

[Frank Leroux]

The ref's decision was almost certainly influenced by Gerrard - which is the ref's problem, not the players. The ref did appear to be very amenable to taking Gerrards' views on board, again, question marks over Clattenburg(sp?).

But he did dive...

Frank.

[Kilteragh]

gerrard stormed up to him when he saw the yellow card. What point was he trying to make and why?

Massive exaggeration.

I think any player would have questioned the ref if he saw him take out a yellow. Any decision other than a red would have been wrong.

Just to show balance - Carra's foul on Lescott should also have been a pen.

[alunevans]

Yesterday, it was blatantly obvious that gerrard's protesting got hibbert sent off when he was going to be given a yellow card. When foreigners or rival clubs do this everyone is up in arms about it.
What's your general opinion on this type of thing:

A) it's a disgrace whoever does it
B) there's nothing wrong with making sure the ref applies the laws correctly
C) in this case it's a bit different as gerrard dived anyway - again!

The ref was about to make a wrong decision that would have got him reprimanded by his own authorities. Steven didn't get him sent off. He got himself sent off. The referee shouldn't have to be advised of the rules in such a clear cut case.

It's one thing waving imaginary cards about saying "I think thats a yellow", its another to remind the referee what the rules are. One is subjective, the other one isn't.

I don't think he did anything unsporting in the slightest.

[Tom]

Yesterday, it was blatantly obvious that gerrard's protesting got hibbert sent off when he was going to be given a yellow card. When foreigners or rival clubs do this everyone is up in arms about it.
What's your general opinion on this type of thing:

A) it's a disgrace whoever does it
B) there's nothing wrong with making sure the ref applies the laws correctly
C) in this case it's a bit different as gerrard dived anyway - again!

It wasn't "blatently obvious" he walked pass him and said something, it was a pretty short statement whatever it was - hardly the chelski standard of bullying the ref. I believe that the ref was going to pull out the red anyhow as it was an obvious red. He took the yellow out without looking at the card - but he never showed the yellow - he then realised his mistake and correctly took out the red.

Also as team captain he has the right to talk to the ref. There is no issue here whatsoever.

[Kenneth]

We've no idea what the ref was thinking. Could have been as simple as 'you've taken the yellow out' , 'oh yeah, doh'.

[Tom]

Gerrard didn't dive. If you have looked at the replays then Hibbert clearly pulls Gerrards shirt and bring him down.

The rule says that it's a red card so I can't see any problem if Stevie told him or asked him about what card Hibbert would get.

If the ref had given Hibbert a yellow then he should have been banned. It's only refs that acts like they want to be seen and discussed that don't follow the rules.

Not only did he not dive, hibbert took his legs for good measure. It was as clear a penalty as you're going to get.

Also as team captain, gerrard has the right to talk to the ref.

[Dan]

I'm not so sure about this one. The ref had already given the penalty - gerrard stormed up to him when he saw the yellow card. What point was he trying to make and why?

Gerrard didn't storm up to him, he was going to get the ball and had a word while on the way. He didn't do what Carra was doing near the end

[Gazzla]

I don't think there is an issue here, the laws clearly state that as last man denying a goal scoring opportunity then it has to be an automatic red card. There is no grey area here and if Clattenburg failed to send him off he would have faced sanctions of his own from Keith Hackett. Whatever Gerrard said didn't take very long and wasn't said in any sort of confrontational manner so I'm not sure he influenced the decision I just think the referee took the wrong card out of his pocket as it wasn't really a judgment call, it's always going to be a straight red.