The obligatory Stevie G thread

[El Jefecito]

What game were you watching fella. I think Sir bob, it was about time you took off your blinkers when watching Gerrard because I have noticed a pattern evolving when discussing his performances. You tend to see things that other people don't see in relation to Gerrard performances. To say he was by far the best player and that he hardly gave the ball away is ****ing laughable. ffs the number of times he hurrid his passes and tried the spectacular kill pass instead of being patiend and keeping it simple, was the most annoying thing for me in the game. He gave the ball away far to often

I saw the same game as you

[El Jefecito]

Interesting points in some of your posts. What formation would benefit Gerrard? Please don't tell me behind the main striker because we've tried him there a number of times, particularly in the cl final and he was ****e.

I'd play 4231, where instead of the onus on the 1 being playing on the last shoulder. For me they should be the one playing holding up the ball. That would allow the 3 (inc. Gerrard) to get up quickly and support the attack. It's basically the was Valencia played.

[tomasjj]

But to me, SG is too good to marginalize. Admittedly, he is **** in a Rafa CM role, but in the right role he IS world class. Rafa needs to find a way to incorporate him without compromising the control from CM, which is the hallmark of how his teams have succeeded.

Again, I'd sacrafice a striker and go with 4231.

I agree with this.
And I have banged on about 4231 before.
Now we have the striker to play this formation, and SG as one of the attacking mids will be perfect.
Alonso and Masch, or Lucas can mop up behind them.

We just need one more quality creative forward to play as one of those 3.
SG, ANother, Babel/Benny/Kewell

[naitizeh]

But to me, SG is too good to marginalize. Admittedly, he is **** in a Rafa CM role, but in the right role he IS world class. Rafa needs to find a way to incorporate him without compromising the control from CM, which is the hallmark of how his teams have succeeded.

Again, I'd sacrafice a striker and go with 4231.

Agree to disagree then bro. World Class in a "right role"... well... dont sit well with me.

[El Jefecito]

Yes. But what if the players panicked and forget instructions, or even basics - for instance, like how to be more patient and wear down a 10-man team? Unless Rafa gets on to the pitch and give one-on-one tuition, then he's not responsible.... fine. not fully responsible.

That was the difference between Lucas and SG on sat. Lucas focused on bringing the rest of the team into play, whereas SG was trying to make the breakthrough his self.

[naitizeh]

That was the difference between Lucas and SG on sat. Lucas focused on bringing the rest of the team into play, whereas SG was trying to make the breakthrough his self.

Not only that. Masher started playing better. And Sissoko managed to move into space better too (to miss that shot!)

[Frank Leroux]

I'd play 4231, where instead of the onus on the 1 being playing on the last shoulder. For me they should be the one playing holding up the ball. That would allow the 3 (inc. Gerrard) to get up quickly and support the attack. It's basically the was Valencia played.

You'll have to spell this one out for me - bit (more) demoralised after the game.

With a 4231 formation, who keeps check on a Lescott-type scenario from Saturday? Bombin' up and down the wing. Seems narrow to me.

[El Jefecito]

Not only that. Masher started playing better. And Sissoko managed to move into space better too (to miss that shot!)

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

That was the difference between Lucas and SG on sat. Lucas focused on bringing the rest of the team into play, whereas SG was trying to make the breakthrough his self.

Complete and utter rubbish.

[CAD]

Carra made a few very good late tackles, and playing next to Hyypia does him no favours

He was still off key and he hoofs too much as well. We miss Agger BADLY!

[CAD]

Complete and utter rubbish.

I could not agree more.

[El Jefecito]

You'll have to spell this one out for me - bit (more) demoralised after the game.

With a 4231 formation, who keeps check on a Lescott-type scenario from Saturday? Bombin' up and down the wing. Seems narrow to me.

with a 4231 I am looking for a formation like

Reina
Finnan-Carra-Agger-Waiter
----Xabi---Momo---
Pennant---SG---Babel
---Torres---

With that setup, Pennant, Finnan and Momo (covering all wings) would be responsible for covering lescott.

Make sense?

[El Jefecito]

Complete and utter rubbish.

Sorry mate you are full of ****! If you are going to state such unsubstantiated BS then you should at least try to justify it.

:bird:

[AFII]

I agree with this.
And I have banged on about 4231 before.
Now we have the striker to play this formation, and SG as one of the attacking mids will be perfect.
Alonso and Masch, or Lucas can mop up behind them.

We just need one more quality creative forward to play as one of those 3.
SG, ANother, Babel/Benny/Kewell

[AFII]

------------Reina
Finnan--Carra----Agger---Arbeloa
-------Masch----Xabi----
---Gerrard--????----Babel---
------------Torres

I would sign up Nasri or Diego as the ???? player.