Right, so these match winners i've been banging on about...

[Pacman]

This thread is class

[Pacman]

Also the term match winner really means a player who can turn it on when the team needs them the most for example Torres on Saturday and Gerrard numerous times throughout his career. Certain players have it in them to do something to get a result even if the team are playing ****e or the team are struggling to break the opposition down.

[Guest]

Also the term match winner really means a player who can turn it on when the team needs them the most for example Torres on Saturday and Gerrard numerous times throughout his career. Certain players have it in them to do something to get a result even if the team are playing ****e or the team are struggling to break the opposition down.

But do they have to score ?

[Nic83]

The term "match winner" can mean many a thing. It depends on what context you use it in.

[red g]

Precisely.

Reina can SAVE us points, but he's still relying on someone else to have scored the goal.

what a load of ****e !!!! you are so wrong. IF torres scores first and we are winning 1-0 and its the 93rd minute and he produces an unbeliavable save what is it and what would the commentators say?

' A match winnnng save'

thus pepe = Matchwinner

therefore

DJS = WRONG

[Pacman]

But do they have to score ?

Not for me they don't however the team does have to win.

It just so happens that most of the time they do score.

[Craig_H]

DJ - when you said that Aaron Lennon was potentially a regular match-winner did you mean as a goalscorer or as a creator?? Same question re SWP as well.

He can be both, potentially. Same as Babel IMO. Lennon has the advantage that he's settled in the Premier League.

[Craig_H]

what a load of ****e !!!! you are so wrong. IF torres scores first and we are winning 1-0 and its the 93rd minute and he produces an unbeliavable save what is it and what would the commentators say?

' A match winnnng save'

thus pepe = Matchwinner

therefore

DJS = WRONG

Commentators say all kinds.

The fact that you base your opinions on what a commentator says...well, says it all.

[red g]

Commentators say all kinds.

The fact that you base your opinions on what a commentator says...well, says it all.

so i take it you disagree that if pepe pulls a save out of the bag to stop the game being a draw he is not a match winner?

just admit your wrong mate

[mersey86]

Commentators say all kinds.

The fact that you base your opinions on what a commentator says...well, says it all.

You see, that's where I'm lucky. I base my opinions on everything DJ says. So I can never go wrong.

[Craig_H]

so i take it you disagree that if pepe pulls a save out of the bag to stop the game being a draw he is not a match winner?

just admit your wrong mate

No, i DO agree that if Pepe pulls a save out of the bag to stop a game, he is not a match winner.

[Craig_H]

You see, that's where I'm lucky. I base my opinions on everything DJ says. So I can never go wrong.

[Armchairkopite]

I agree we need that magical winger who can produce goals and flair.

Could Harry Kewell be the one?

If he stays fit than i believe he could be the man to turn it on, what a story that would be having been injured for so long eh.

[El Jefecito]

It's all semantics, what a waste of time.

[Craig_H]

It's semantics...semantics, i tell ya!