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he had 8 minutes against chelsea. agreed he didn't change the game. Was ****e as were the other 10 against portsmouth. did well against arseanl in 45 mins, good against blackburn in 18 mins.Originally posted by fredo View PostCrouch is starting to show his form now. He was piss poor at the start of the season mate, you'll have to agree with me on that.
He didn't really get a lot of opportunity to play well though did he?Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde
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Analyzing it like that yes, but Rafa sees him in training every day, and IMO he wasn't putting the required effort in training to warrant a more regular place. You only had to look at how he played even though he didn't play much. He was ****e against Toulouse (away) and looked lethargic.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Posthe had 8 minutes against chelsea. agreed he didn't change the game. Was ****e as were the other 10 against portsmouth. did well against arseanl in 45 mins, good against blackburn in 18 mins.
He didn't really get a lot of opportunity to play well though did he?
Rafa knows his stuff. Crouch is a good player and can be one of the best around if he stops believing all the hype about him and start doing the work instead. Kuyt, whilst an inferior player (in terms of quality) has been running his socks off, and contributed to the team more than Crouch.
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I haven't seen him in training so I'll go with you on that.Originally posted by fredo View PostAnalyzing it like that yes, but Rafa sees him in training every day, and IMO he wasn't putting the required effort in training to warrant a more regular place. You only had to look at how he played even though he didn't play much. He was ****e against Toulouse (away) and looked lethargic.
Rafa knows his stuff. Crouch is a good player and can be one of the best around if he stops believing all the hype about him and start doing the work instead. Kuyt, whilst an inferior player (in terms of quality) has been running his socks off, and contributed to the team more than Crouch.
But I don't think the hype has ever gone to his head. One of my mates bumped into him a few months back and he was as down to earth as he comes across in interviews. So unless he's eyeing a future on the stage I don't buy all that.
I think he'll leave and what effect will that have in the dressing room?Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde
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I don't want him to leave either, he's a fantastic outlet for us when in form. Now, if Rafa has the chance to sign an even better player, what would we know ? We have to trust the man.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostI haven't seen him in training so I'll go with you on that.
But I don't think the hype has ever gone to his head. One of my mates bumped into him a few months back and he was as down to earth as he comes across in interviews. So unless he's eyeing a future on the stage I don't buy all that.
I think he'll leave and what effect will that have in the dressing room?
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The games against Marseille, first game against Toulouse and Cardiff were the factors in him getting dropped I think. He just didnt look interested for large parts of the game. Have always liked Crouch but he wasnt himself at the start of the season and didnt deserve a place on the team. Kuyt wasnt playing the best either but at least you could see the effort.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Posthe had 8 minutes against chelsea. agreed he didn't change the game. Was ****e as were the other 10 against portsmouth. did well against arseanl in 45 mins, good against blackburn in 18 mins.
He didn't really get a lot of opportunity to play well though did he?
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What Rafa do need to do is to get in a new no2. One that can takeover from Pako as the voice between the players and Rafa.Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
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I've never thought he has become full of himself in the way some have but he did seem to stop improving and looking less enthusiastic towards the end of last season. He could have been narked with Rafas rotation policy or subconsciously he might have slackened off due to such universal praise I'm not sure. However he seems to have been bought back to the team and to be playing with hunger again which I'm very happy about.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostI haven't seen him in training so I'll go with you on that.
But I don't think the hype has ever gone to his head. One of my mates bumped into him a few months back and he was as down to earth as he comes across in interviews. So unless he's eyeing a future on the stage I don't buy all that.
I think he'll leave and what effect will that have in the dressing room?"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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Then ask yourself why?Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Posthe had 8 minutes against chelsea. agreed he didn't change the game. Was ****e as were the other 10 against portsmouth. did well against arseanl in 45 mins, good against blackburn in 18 mins.
He didn't really get a lot of opportunity to play well though did he?
Maybe he was out of form?
Maybe he did something to piss Rafa off?
Rafa is a very analytical man, I am sure he thought the team was better without him.
I don't think we can say he handled it wrong since we don't know jack.--== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--
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Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs
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Is there actually anyone (sane) who wants Rafa sacked?
I saw Tony talking to Rafa on the phone when he made those comments by the way, he was on the school run, so its possible he was being distracted by a back seat full of screaming kids.
Dreams come true. Without that possibility, nature would not incite us to have them.
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Never advocated sacking Rafa either but I think all fans have a right to be concerned about how things have gone in the last two months. Blind allegiance to Rafa in return for 2005 won't be good for our long-term prospects if, and it's only an if, he's not the man we need to deliver 19.
There are green shoots of a return to playing something resembling attacking football, going on the last two or three games, but we still have some way to go I think. I hope the return of Kewell, Alonso and Agger gives us an extra 10% because IMHO we are only in the title race statistically and mathematically at the moment, and not on the basis of the quality of our football. It IS getting better though and if Rafa at least goes close to the title this year, continues to sign players that make an immediate impact instead of collecting more potential players and our football style further evolves along attacking lines, then I'll be happy enough that we're ready for a massive push in 2008/09.
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can we find these in coops' size and lfc colours?Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post...read these quotes from the great man himself in tonights Echo and hang your heads in shame you ****ehawks:whatever::whatever:
“I heard about the rumours at the weekend and it is always flattering to be linked with other big clubs because it must mean you are doing something right.
“But even if I was approached I would tell whichever club it was that I am really happy with my club, my squad, my supporters and my city.
“There are still many things which I want to do here so I am planning on being here for a long time.”
Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post...read these quotes from the great man himself in tonights Echo and hang your heads in shame you ****ehawks:whatever::whatever:
“I heard about the rumours at the weekend and it is always flattering to be linked with other big clubs because it must mean you are doing something right.
“But even if I was approached I would tell whichever club it was that I am really happy with my club, my squad, my supporters and my city.
“There are still many things which I want to do here so I am planning on being here for a long time.”
I dont want him sacked....but so what? Why should this quote make them hang their heads?
It's not about whether he'd want to stay or not, it's about the club achieving what it can under him.
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) I have 100% faith in Rafa and I am convinced he'll bring number 19 to Anfield.


damn lapto
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