Benitez thread

[BobTheCharmer]

"it can happen. You never know what can happen. If I can improve my English."

Now if thats not a piss take I dont know what is

Jesus christ what a ****ing numpty convention

your a ****in nutcase mate.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up buying us in a year or two.

.........and i wouldnt mind it either pure winner with a hell of alot of cash and its just him not two guys...we should of learned from GED and Roy been joint managers ...........just have one person in charge!!!!

[spy]

...while wearing his ****in sun hat.

Personally I think he's a blagger. Remember during the summer when he and the count - same person I reckon - got everyone on TLW whipped into a frenzy that there was no money, and that we'd end up with Forlan?

Then we spent £30m plus on two young top talents and they soon went quiet. Who'd have thought?

Dave U and The Count aren't the same person, The Count's about Crouchie's height and sometimes plays 5-a-side against Dave U.

It was Chris Bascombe who mentioned Forlan. Forlan was a name on the list of possible targets. This was the list that was brought into play after the owners admitted we'd not actually be able to afford Eto'o and co after all. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...name_page.html

He mentions a fee for Forlan there of £16m-£18m. Torres cost us £18m.

He also says "Unless the club’s American owners are more specific on what Benitez can afford, he’ll continue to monitor his alternative list of strike targets."

Now it was after that, unless I'm mistaken, that Count Morfeo posted his angry thread about us getting no money. A few posts further down he clarified that he mean no extra money. Rafa's alternative list was based on what he could afford if he spent the dosh we already had. If the owners had put some more money in he'd have moved onto the list we all hoped he was going to buy from.

[Nicey]

I think myself that Rafa is using the press to get the money he need for Mascherano, probably Garay and other signing(s). He know that he can walk out and look like the hero if he isn't backed.

More or less exactly the same situation as last summer. First Rafa get linked with a job(Bayern) and then Rafa acts in a strange way followed by a statement by G&H.

All the pressure is on G&H, not Rafa.

Its all conjecture mate and its all becoming very very tiresome, god only knows how rafa must feel. I find the idea laughable in the extreme that Rafa G & T would communicate via the front pages of tabloids because thats what the majority of you lot feel is going on here. As far as I can see Rafa has made no mention of Transfers and I think G&t are probably responding to the growing speculation regarding the Jan window. I suppose they have to before the madness starts to be detrimental, but I would have been tempted to just ignore it. Then you have people saying Rafa has not ruled himself out of the England job but as Rafa has said if his English improves ...Honestly there really is a large chunk of clueless numpties on here. If anybody thinks for one moment only weeks after committing his "long term" future to liverpool he suddenly had a change of mind for the worse ****ing job in world football then you are bigger numpties than I originally thought.

Here what I think happened. Morning of press conference Rafa is at coffee machine taking to staff .. Espere y vea que esos morons de mierda me preguntarán acerca del trabajo de Inglaterra

Seats down at Press conference .. Morning Rafa will you be taking over the England Job

Qué yo le dijo

:whatever:

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Dave U and The Count aren't the same person, The Count's about Crouchie's height and sometimes plays 5-a-side against Dave U.

It was Chris Bascombe who mentioned Forlan. Forlan was a name on the list of possible targets. This was the list that was brought into play after the owners admitted we'd not actually be able to afford Eto'o and co after all. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...name_page.html

He mentions a fee for Forlan there of £16m-£18m. Torres cost us £18m.

He also says "Unless the club’s American owners are more specific on what Benitez can afford, he’ll continue to monitor his alternative list of strike targets."

Now it was after that, unless I'm mistaken, that Count Morfeo posted his angry thread about us getting no money. A few posts further down he clarified that he mean no extra money. Rafa's alternative list was based on what he could afford if he spent the dosh we already had. If the owners had put some more money in he'd have moved onto the list we all hoped he was going to buy from.

Nice post mate

[AFII]

Its all conjecture mate and its all becoming very very tiresome, god only knows how rafa must feel. I find the idea laughable in the extreme that Rafa G & T would communicate via the front pages of tabloids because thats what the majority of you lot feel is going on here. As far as I can see Rafa has made no mention of Transfers and I think G&t are probably responding to the growing speculation regarding the Jan window. I suppose they have to before the madness starts to be detrimental, but I would have been tempted to just ignore it. Then you have people saying Rafa has not ruled himself out of the England job but as Rafa has said if his English improves ...Honestly there really is a large chunk of clueless numpties on here. If anybody thinks for one moment only weeks after committing his "long term" future to liverpool he suddenly had a change of mind for the worse ****ing job in world football then you are bigger numpties than I originally thought.

Here what I think happened. Morning of press conference Rafa is at coffee machine taking to staff .. Espere y vea que esos morons de mierda me preguntarán acerca del trabajo de Inglaterra

Seats down at Press conference .. Morning Rafa will you be taking over the England Job

Qué yo le dijo

:whatever:

Time will tell, I hope that you are right because Rafa won't accept anything else than 100% control and be backed in the transfer market.

[Nicey]

There a very small outlay for our new Stadium to think about aswell .. No money my arse

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

Dave U and The Count aren't the same person, The Count's about Crouchie's height and sometimes plays 5-a-side against Dave U.

It was Chris Bascombe who mentioned Forlan. Forlan was a name on the list of possible targets. This was the list that was brought into play after the owners admitted we'd not actually be able to afford Eto'o and co after all. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...name_page.html

He mentions a fee for Forlan there of £16m-£18m. Torres cost us £18m.

He also says "Unless the club’s American owners are more specific on what Benitez can afford, he’ll continue to monitor his alternative list of strike targets."

Now it was after that, unless I'm mistaken, that Count Morfeo posted his angry thread about us getting no money. A few posts further down he clarified that he mean no extra money. Rafa's alternative list was based on what he could afford if he spent the dosh we already had. If the owners had put some more money in he'd have moved onto the list we all hoped he was going to buy from.

Forget Chris Bascombe.

The Count I remember said that the yanks have ****ed up and Rafa won't get his first chcice targets.

So Torres wasn't the first choice then?

It's all speculation on their part, lets be honest here. Okay they aren't the same bloke, of course they aren't - was jesting, but it seemed to me that they were both posting similar "info". Coincedence?

Now they may have been fed unreliable info, though I suspect I'm giving them too much credit here.

Just my opinion like but what DS said before about the TLW is right.

Got nothing against DU personally, I just refuse to take his word as gospel as some others seem so willing to. Surely we've learned by now that anything you read on the net should be taken with a massive pinch of salt.

[bazza76]

...while wearing his ****in sun hat.

Personally I think he's a blagger. Remember during the summer when he and the count - same person I reckon - got everyone on TLW whipped into a frenzy that there was no money, and that we'd end up with Forlan?

Then we spent £30m plus on two young top talents and they soon went quiet. Who'd have thought?

I know what you are saying mate and if I remember correctly, I was one of the first people to rubbish what they were saying.
There is every possibility that this is all crap too. But I do still think that it is an unusual claim to make, largely because it is so easy to prove him wrong. Time will tell on this one I guess, if Foster has not gone and is happy with life in Liverpool, Dave Usher will find it hard to find anyone to believe him again, even amongst his loyal followers. not that I personally give a ****.
Personally, and I am not just saying this because of the claims, but I did worry about how they would settle on Merseyside, one son on his own in what must seem like a total alien lifestyle. I don't care how loyal he wants to be to daddy, but if he is not happy, he will be going home to the comforts and surrounding he is used to.
It seems to me, that since the yanks have taken over, they have been trying to run the club on a part time basis. If that continues, IMO we will most likely end up in the shop window again.

[AFII]

Rafael Benítez struggling to hold on as relationship with owners slides

Oliver Kay

There was a widespread belief that Rafael Benítez was joking yesterday afternoon when he suggested that he might be considered a candidate for the job as England head coach, but Liverpool’s supporters are unlikely to find it a laughing matter.

That remark, laced with a typically self-deprecating joke about his poor English, was made against a backdrop of growing political unrest at Anfield, with strong indications last night that his relationship with the club’s American owners is nearing crisis point.

Benítez barely concealed his unhappiness at his weekly press conference yesterday, when, in response to questions about his position and his plans for the future, he said no fewer than 25 times that he was “focusing on coaching and training my team”. That phrase appeared harmless, but further investigation revealed that it was one impressed on him, to his dissatisfaction, by George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks in response to his latest demands for support in the transfer market. His repeated use of the phrase has been interpreted within Anfield as a deliberate and dangerous swipe at the two American tycoons.

Benítez has been angered by a lack of dialogue from Gillett and Hicks in recent months, with sources at the club saying that, despite regular e-mail contact, they have spoken once since August. More troubling still are rumours of tension between the American co-chairmen as they look to finalise a refinancing package that would take the club £500 million into debt to finance the construction of a stadium on Stanley Park. Rick Parry, the chief executive, attempted to dismiss such talk last week, but Gillett and Hicks are known to have differed on several key issues since they arrived in a blaze of glory to complete their £415 million takeover in February.

The lines of communication between BenÍtez and the owners were reopened yesterday lunchtime – whether directly or not remained unclear last night – but relations are far from amicable. BenÍtez has demanded £17 million to sign Javier Mascherano on a permanent basis, having negotiated a deal directly with the player’s advisers, and a further sum to sign Ezequiel Marcelo Garay, the Racing Santander defender, and two South American teenagers in January, but the Americans feel that he is agitating unnecessarily and that, having been backed in the transfer market in the summer, he should concentrate on improving Liverpool’s position in the Barclays Premier League – a slur that did not sit well with the manager.

Only last week BenÍtez rejected an informal approach from Bayern Munich and talked of his desire to fulfil his many long-term ambitions at Anfield, but there was no such cheeriness yesterday as he arrived unusually late and in a dark mood after the pronouncement from the United States. Pressed on any issue beyond individual players and tomorrow’s Premier League match away to Newcastle United, he would say only that “I am focused on training and coaching.”

Informed that he was doing little to offer assurances about his future, particularly with his comment about the England job, he said only that “You have my answer” and that it had been serious, rather than light-hearted.

BenÍtez might have convinced himself that he was treading a diplomatic line in contrast to the outburst that dismayed the owners the morning after the Champions League final defeat by AC Milan in May, but Gillett and Hicks were not impressed when word reached them of his performance. Sensing that they were being dragged into a public power struggle, the two men took the unusual step of issuing a statement through the club’s website, saying that they will not be hurried into transfer activity and that all matters will be discussed when they visit Merseyside next month.

The statement read: “We made a significant investment in the playing squad during the summer and desperately want this team to succeed. There are some very important games coming up in the next couple of weeks and all of us need to focus on winning those games and getting the best out of the players we already have at the club. We will leave any talk of buying or selling players until we come across to Liverpool in December and sit down with the manager then.”

Rather than placate BenÍtez, the tone of the statement appeared to put pressure on him in advance of a critical Champions League match against FC Porto on Wednesday.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2926284.ece

[Nicey]

Time will tell, I hope that you are right because Rafa won't accept anything else than 100% control and be backed in the transfer market.

Look I tell you what the Liverpool not so Faithful I think need there cards marked.

G&T have come in they have backed Rafa in the Transfer Market with world class signings, Parry and Co secured finance for the club, G & T have secured approval for a new stadium which will put most stadiums around the world to shame, Rafa has won everything in the game and made 2 Champions Lg Finals in little over 3 years .. We are now set up quite well to have a real go for the title, christmass is fast approaching and we are still very much in the hunt, its been a long time since we could say that...

Lets cut our club and all connected with it a little slack for a change

[AFII]

Look I tell you what the Liverpool not so Faithful I think need there cards marked.

G&T have come in they have backed Rafa in the Transfer Market with world class signings, Parry and Co secured finance for the club, G & T have secured approval for a new stadium which will put most stadiums around the world to shame, Rafa has won everything in the game and made 2 Champions Lg Finals in little over 3 years .. We are now set up quite well to have a real go for the title, christmass is fast approaching and we are still very much in the hunt, its been a long time since we could say that...

Lets cut our club and all connected with it a little slack for a change

[reddragon]

Head in the sand .... You tell me what the ****ing problem you tell me .. I want to know now ...

Tell me the problem or problems , then tell were you got this information from


Honestly I am fascinated, were the **** has all this come from ... Suddenly all is not well at Anfield ..... Why exactly ?

Are people ****ed off about the England result and venting ?

the England result????? Behave

[reddragon]

Rafael Benítez struggling to hold on as relationship with owners slides

Oliver Kay

There was a widespread belief that Rafael Benítez was joking yesterday afternoon when he suggested that he might be considered a candidate for the job as England head coach, but Liverpool’s supporters are unlikely to find it a laughing matter.

That remark, laced with a typically self-deprecating joke about his poor English, was made against a backdrop of growing political unrest at Anfield, with strong indications last night that his relationship with the club’s American owners is nearing crisis point.

Benítez barely concealed his unhappiness at his weekly press conference yesterday, when, in response to questions about his position and his plans for the future, he said no fewer than 25 times that he was “focusing on coaching and training my team”. That phrase appeared harmless, but further investigation revealed that it was one impressed on him, to his dissatisfaction, by George Gillett Jr and Tom Hicks in response to his latest demands for support in the transfer market. His repeated use of the phrase has been interpreted within Anfield as a deliberate and dangerous swipe at the two American tycoons.

Benítez has been angered by a lack of dialogue from Gillett and Hicks in recent months, with sources at the club saying that, despite regular e-mail contact, they have spoken once since August. More troubling still are rumours of tension between the American co-chairmen as they look to finalise a refinancing package that would take the club £500 million into debt to finance the construction of a stadium on Stanley Park. Rick Parry, the chief executive, attempted to dismiss such talk last week, but Gillett and Hicks are known to have differed on several key issues since they arrived in a blaze of glory to complete their £415 million takeover in February.

The lines of communication between BenÍtez and the owners were reopened yesterday lunchtime – whether directly or not remained unclear last night – but relations are far from amicable. BenÍtez has demanded £17 million to sign Javier Mascherano on a permanent basis, having negotiated a deal directly with the player’s advisers, and a further sum to sign Ezequiel Marcelo Garay, the Racing Santander defender, and two South American teenagers in January, but the Americans feel that he is agitating unnecessarily and that, having been backed in the transfer market in the summer, he should concentrate on improving Liverpool’s position in the Barclays Premier League – a slur that did not sit well with the manager.

Only last week BenÍtez rejected an informal approach from Bayern Munich and talked of his desire to fulfil his many long-term ambitions at Anfield, but there was no such cheeriness yesterday as he arrived unusually late and in a dark mood after the pronouncement from the United States. Pressed on any issue beyond individual players and tomorrow’s Premier League match away to Newcastle United, he would say only that “I am focused on training and coaching.”

Informed that he was doing little to offer assurances about his future, particularly with his comment about the England job, he said only that “You have my answer” and that it had been serious, rather than light-hearted.

BenÍtez might have convinced himself that he was treading a diplomatic line in contrast to the outburst that dismayed the owners the morning after the Champions League final defeat by AC Milan in May, but Gillett and Hicks were not impressed when word reached them of his performance. Sensing that they were being dragged into a public power struggle, the two men took the unusual step of issuing a statement through the club’s website, saying that they will not be hurried into transfer activity and that all matters will be discussed when they visit Merseyside next month.

The statement read: “We made a significant investment in the playing squad during the summer and desperately want this team to succeed. There are some very important games coming up in the next couple of weeks and all of us need to focus on winning those games and getting the best out of the players we already have at the club. We will leave any talk of buying or selling players until we come across to Liverpool in December and sit down with the manager then.”

Rather than placate BenÍtez, the tone of the statement appeared to put pressure on him in advance of a critical Champions League match against FC Porto on Wednesday.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2926284.ece

to say it 25 times is downright wierd! I think he's been slapped down this week myself, and he's not happy about it.

[El Jefecito]

Numpty Convention this way please

Come say that tomy face sucker.