Tom Hicks: Quit talking and coach the players

[Imy]

graeme hunter was on irish radio this morning and said that that the rift between rafa and the americans was serious and that he is still pissed about buying benayoun and babel who were either not his first choices or not his choices at all. hunter can sound arrogant but he tends to be on the money.

Hunter is he the guy that covers Spanish football, if so he's full of Crap.

[The Erectile Banana]

Hunter is he the guy that covers Spanish football, if so he's full of Crap.

That's the one. Does Spanish football for Sky.

All of these developments are worrying and surely some of them are untrue, but there's no smoke without fire.

[JohnDoe]

Anyone else think this is all CHEESE CHEESE CHEESE?

[Lynchyred]

I knew I should have listened more to Dunk, he always had his reservations with G+T.
















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[Maestro]

I don’t think the burden of proof is on me to be honest. You claim that the Dubai consortium wanted to use the club as a plaything (a criticism widely used against Arab investors), what proof do you have? I merely stated that Rafa would not be worrying about money had they bought the club (fact), although I also think that as long time fans of the club they would have had respect for our traditions.

That's a much better post than your previous effort.

I was told by someone connected with the club that the Sheikhs were already mentioning the names of players they would like to buy in their first meeting with Rafa. There were obviously other factors in LFC's decision not to go with the DIC consortium, but this I'm not sure if that will hold up as 'proof', but it's something I believe to be true from someone I trust implicitly.

I think it's insulting to reply to a post with the word 'nonsense' without any explanation as to why you believe this to be the case. It has nothing to do with a 'burden of proof', IMO.



BTW - your username...do you have connections to Vienna?

[Imy]

That's a much better post than your previous effort.

I was told by someone connected with the club that the Sheikhs were already mentioning the names of players they would like to buy in their first meeting with Rafa. There were obviously other factors in LFC's decision not to go with the DIC consortium, but this I'm not sure if that will hold up as 'proof', but it's something I believe to be true from someone I trust implicitly.

I think it's insulting to reply to a post with the word 'nonsense' without any explanation as to why you believe this to be the case. It has nothing to do with a 'burden of proof', IMO.



BTW - your username...do you have connections to Vienna?

I still believe we would have been better off with the DIC, them mentioning players i believe is them showing off their football knowledge, i wonder whe they they named the likes of Kaka and Ronaldhino? or Banayoun and Lucas?

Anyway this is a mute argument because we got the Uncle's G&H

[Cormack74]

I don’t think the burden of proof is on me to be honest. You claim that the Dubai consortium wanted to use the club as a plaything (a criticism widely used against Arab investors), what proof do you have? I merely stated that Rafa would not be worrying about money had they bought the club (fact), although I also think that as long time fans of the club they would have had respect for our traditions.

Surely the issue with DIC was that they were found to be planning a 7 year exit strategy before they had even bought the club.

[5aq1b]

graeme hunter was on irish radio this morning and said that that the rift between rafa and the americans was serious and that he is still pissed about buying benayoun and babel who were either not his first choices or not his choices at all. hunter can sound arrogant but he tends to be on the money.

Weren't we after Yossi before the yanks came in anyway?

[5aq1b]

The problem is if Rafa goes then I can see:

Reina
Alonso
Torres
Arbeloa
Mascher

All wanting to go as well.

Would really depend on who the successor would be. Time to start a new thread for that? :-P

[breffniboy]

Hunter is he the guy that covers Spanish football, if so he's full of Crap.

Hunter was the first to reveal the training ground spat between Ruud van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo when they were at Man Yoo. He has contacts in the English dressing rooms as well as Spain and if he says it's serious, then I am definitely worried.

Whatever you say about egos and pissing contests and so on, peel it all back and the root cause of all this is that the yanks came in blowing a trumpet and milked the press about spending shedloads of cash, then handed Rafa 20million net and are now welching on further money by the sounds of it. They've bought into something they don't really seem to understand and clearly do not want to give Rafa the money he needs for the team. I lay the blame squarely at their door. Rafa is an honourable guy, the yanks haven't been completely honourable so far IMO.

[redwien]

That's a much better post than your previous effort.

I was told by someone connected with the club that the Sheikhs were already mentioning the names of players they would like to buy in their first meeting with Rafa. There were obviously other factors in LFC's decision not to go with the DIC consortium, but this I'm not sure if that will hold up as 'proof', but it's something I believe to be true from someone I trust implicitly.

I think it's insulting to reply to a post with the word 'nonsense' without any explanation as to why you believe this to be the case. It has nothing to do with a 'burden of proof', IMO.



BTW - your username...do you have connections to Vienna?

Fair point about the one word reply, will try to be more articulate in the future.


Yeah – I’m based in Vienna (but I'm Irish)

[fred_plasticine]

Fair point about the one word reply, will try to be more articulate in the future.


Yeah – I’m based in Vienna (but I'm Irish)

so the two of you probably know each other

[redwien]

Surely the issue with DIC was that they were found to be planning a 7 year exit strategy before they had even bought the club.

I don’t think there was any substance to this claim. IMO - the issue was money for the shareholders.

[AFII]

Hunter was the first to reveal the training ground spat between Ruud van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo when they were at Man Yoo. He has contacts in the English dressing rooms as well as Spain and if he says it's serious, then I am definitely worried.

Whatever you say about egos and pissing contests and so on, peel it all back and the root cause of all this is that the yanks came in blowing a trumpet and milked the press about spending shedloads of cash, then handed Rafa 20million net and are now welching on further money by the sounds of it. They've bought into something they don't really seem to understand and clearly do not want to give Rafa the money he needs for the team. I lay the blame squarely at their door. Rafa is an honourable guy, the yanks haven't been completely honourable so far IMO.

I think everyone remember....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEcOdOpxtxs

[carlton]

Id be interested in a definition of 'plaything'. Would they have played around with the club and then sell it to the highest bidder once they go bored? Would they have 'whored' the club and its traditions? Or would they have built a stadium and spent lots of $$ on players and turn the club around quickly cos they have the resources to do that financial crisis or no financial crisis?

I thought the yanks were bringing all this experience of running sporting clubs? but the clubs they own arent exactly winning trophies left, right, and centre. LFC is probably their most successful sports club and it doesnt seem to be a priority with them. Then there was all this other business experience and organisation like media that the club was going to be able to leverage off but whats come of that so far?

Its clear they know as much as I do about running an EPL club much less a club that is as revered as ours and instead of pouncing around they should put up of fu#k off. I sincerely hope I have to eat my words about these guys one day cos they semed quite genuine.